There's a recurring theme here. The best stuff they made for this game came from outside help. Since that help is gone, we've gotten garbage like the recent seraph towers, the super lackluster undying mind finale, and the really lame end to the corridors of time to name a few. Compared to forsaken, shadowkeep feels like a $10 DLC. Gee, I wonder why the content has been severely lacking since activision left...

Anyone with a brain knew it wasn't Activision that was the bungie fanboy excuse trying to rationalize a disaster. Look around the industry most team leads or people in high up positions stay for decades remember when the dragon age /mass effect guys split from bioware? It was a huge deal and showed bioware was in disarray. Or how about the recent guy leaving rockstar while rdr2 online is a dumpster fire same thing. Meanwhile at bungie how many known by name devs or team leads have bounced in just 5 years you know what the #1 sign for bad management is? [spoiler]high turnover rate[/spoiler]

Yesssssss I always said it was not Activision. Who was at fault for the state of the game Fan boys bungie extremist swear it was. But all they did was rush out content. The choices being made in game. The changes to weapons load outs, the choice to make small patrol zones , where you cant ride your sparrows, making everything vanilla for new light players. Choosing to design social spaces that become forgotten and or irrelevant after you beat the game. Because all the mpcs are removed . Mpcs who where important for the campgine being forgotten. And left by the way side and turned into basically bounty boards if even that. Introducing clans and then just doing nothing with them and moving on. That's a trend with bungie. They walk back things. But they never choose to walk back the big things or address them to years later. The content sucked . I dont think because it was rushed I think because. Bungies designs of said content sucked. Since they broke off with Activision. They have done nothing to dramatically improve the game. Infact I would say the content is SOOOO much worse. I'll take small but new patrol zones and planets and strikes and a raid. Over seasons anyday. From little things like what's happening with the emblems and erasing everyone's scores. To introducing penical weapons, only to change them to ritual weapons, now only to say we ate not even giving you that no more. That right there should tell you bungie dont know what there doing. There appealing to the pvp players. And there own egos. There not thinking about what makes a good game or what keeps people involved over months and years. They just want that quick buck. Soooo they might as well. W Activision

And they can't censor Reddit with their CoC, either.

Honestly, I wish Activision would've been able to keep the rights to Destiny, and let Bungo go, only to let Vicarious Visions and/or High Moon Studios take over development. Without anybody looking over their collective shoulder to tell Bungo, "No, that's dumb. Don't do that." whenever something like Emblem resets or sunsetting weapons came up as an idea, we're in for a bad future.

I feel bad for Activision to have had to deal with bungie and to have had been associated with Destiny

High Moon Studios and Vicarious Visions had the passion that Bungie doesn't have for Destiny

Bungie is a joke. Their content is trash, and i seriously question their ability to perform at the very low bar they have set. Every single time they release or change something, they break 15 other things. You cant even play gambit ffs, it crashes the entire game! They will fail to meet expectations of their chinese overlords soon enough, and that will be the dying gasp of a once proud and innovative company.

Yeah. Customers complain here. Bungie “we’re listening” When reddit turns on bungie. “We -blam!-ed up”

Yes there are many people with nothing better to do then complain about everything. So many have done nothing, achieved nothing, contributed nothing, but oh boy are they experts.