Without pinnacle weapons there might not be anyone doing comp. Luna's is great, but people using Luna's still get killed. Here are some things you might want to try.. use Bygones and stay at a distance Use Last Perdition or Swift Ride or Cadenza (elemental Bygones type) and stay at a distance Use Jotunn and get good at pre-charging and moving after firing. Use two fusion rifle scavenger perks use Erentil (I don't have it, but get wrecked by it in the time I can get 3 or 4 hand cannon shots off if I'm not moving around enough) Use Trust with a good roll, but yeah you need to hit the first shot learn to be a shotgun person use TLW and get close maybe an SMG and get close but this might be tough Maybe Cerberus +1 for close range, but I haven't tried that for a long time I can't snipe in PVP, but that works too All of these approaches can kill me while I'm using Luna's. I try not to be in position for any of that to happen, but get outplayed by people doing this and other stuff all the time.