[quote]Everyone's favorite post. Shotguns are seriously the epitome of what is wromg woth this game. Universal Remote is honestly, alongside party crasher and basically every other shotgun in the game, are the most degenerate weapons in the game. And the fact that in order to counter them on your 50 cave maps where 3v3 is too many players on the map, you have to have a shotgun.[/quote] No, they are not. Despite what some may believe, sitting on your ass with a Sniper and/or Scout Rifle is not everybody's idea of fun. [quote]Yes you can countrr them woth snipers, fusions, scouts etc. But the one and most efficient way to counter is to also have a shotgun. It is more degenerate than the Thorn and Vex at full power. Hands down. When will there be a way to band weapon types from certain playlists? And Universal has so much range and ammo! You never run out! You never need ammo boxes cause look i can just blink and twilight garrison and bam kill you and also use a sniper if you're too far away.[/quote] Laughably false. At their prime, the Vex Mythoclast and Thorn were objectively overpowered to the point that using other weapons was a hindrance. Thorn, at its prime was a guaranteed 2 headshot kill from most ranges and could compete with Scout Rifles at their prime range. It also had the ability to stall a Guardian's ability to regenerate health and allowed you to briefly track people through walls. It's arguably the most hated weapon in the game for a reason. I never had the Vex Mythoclast, but I can understand why it was considered, at one, the strongest weapon in the game: a faster firing, incredibly stable Scout Rifle that dealt elemental, Fusion Rifle damage. Due to the nature of Fusion Rifles deal damage, headshots are not needed to deal maximum damage. Melting people with bodyshots left and right. You don't need a shotgun to counter a shotgun. Not even close. All you need is to use your head a little. 1) Guy running at you with a shotgun? Walk or jump backwards while shooting. 2) Shotgun Guy keeps killing you in a tight space? Yeah, Sherlock, maybe you should stop walking into that tiny room and playing to his strength. Keep your distance and stop turning corners sharply. Map awareness. We also have radars. 3) He's using Universal Remote with a Sniper Rifle? Okay. Whatever. Engage him at medium range where he has almost no options. In fact, screw it. Pick up a Scout or Pulse Rifle and engage him at long range. He's betting everything on making that one shot with his Sniper Rifle after all. If he misses, you win.

There are many more effective counters to shotguns than snipers. [b]-THEGREATESTNIKE [/b]

Has universal remote equipped. [spoiler]irony[/spoiler]

TL; DR: OP sucks and needs excuses for getting wrecked by shotguns.

"Yes you can counter them with snipers, fusions, scouts, etc." "Seriously, it makes the game less fun when I'm forced to counter a shotgun with a shotgun" I'm confused by your post.

Shut up and go play splatoon.