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Challenge of elders 41 prision Nightfall [b]Should have matchmaking[/b] Raids Trials [b]Should [i]not[/i][/b] Wiping endlessly due to incompetent randoms is not fun. I've seen people rush thalnok this week in CoO (leaving the sword on the floor, shooting him non-stop wondering why they aren't doing damage), if they can't get past a simple patrol mini-boss (who's mechanics are a complete repeat of crotas end) there's no way you'd finish crota, and certainly not vog or kings fall. Picture wiping over and over again because someone didn't know how to swap by totems in kings fall, or doesn't even know how too...or you being the only one killing oracles in vog... How about the Warpriest mechanics? Who's grabbing golgoroths gaze (And if you are who's dropping the bubble and shooting)? How long would you sit at the jumping puzzle before you left? By deathsisters pray the random runner knows how, pray 3 others know which plate to step on first...or to stand inside the aura... Don't get me started on oryx. Even the first encounter with the relics, how much anxiety would you handle after being the only one to grab a relic and be set back again (assuming the team even makes it past 1...) How about vog? Templar, (imagine how many people would run right out of the containment)? How many kills the gorgons would have. Think gatekeepers are easy? Wait till the portal closes behind you because no one is on it! Or no one's watching the middle spire. Or they drop/die with relic since they don't know how to use it. Atheon who knows how to clense? You do? Assume you don't get teleported...can they kill oracles in time? Do they know how to clense? Even crota, you think you can solo but they all seem to enjoy seeing the oversoul spawn. Again and again. How come your the only one shooting at it? Wipe... Also 3 people die, you figure it's a wipe right? Off the map you go. Wrong the last two players are either afk or don't know why everyone died and are trying to revive teammates on hard mode...or insist on hiding thinking your coming back in 30 seconds on your own....15 mins later they send you a message calling you a scrub because you haven't pushed X to revive yourself yet... Then there's the problem with afk's, trolls, quitters, two players being in a party who seem to insist on staring at each other teabagging the ground the entire raid... Challenge of elders, poe and nightfall a single player can carry. But for raids and arguably trials one cannot. (Unless your running crota or your name is ramblinn)
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  • You stupid enough to not know the meaning of optional

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  • I'm telling you that even someone who's dull as you will hate it, it will be a failed add. Instead of having bungie put stupid things in let's focus on actually problems.

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  • You don't think its a legit problem they we can't get into simple activities we have done in our sleep in a timely manner rather than 15 mins on a third party site (which goes against their claim you need a tried and trusted team for these things) yet they support the third party app because it does their job partially for them in a shittier/ slower manner?

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  • Modificato da Haunter: 5/17/2016 3:37:48 AM
    You know how to run the raid. Granted. But 90% of people who will match up with you do not. I saw it this week in CoO. Half the randoms I was with rushed thalnok and died repeatedly. Matchmaking for raiding will get used the first 3 weeks. Then no sane person will go back in. This is a waste of the devs time when they could be working on something worthwhile.

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  • Not even just talking raids here. What about CoE? Every single group I run with does it three times in a row with ease. And even if we're talking raid... LFG is legitimately me doing random matchmaking myself... I post need 5... Boom I get a group. We get it done most of the time. Even raid challenge modes. So yes I and every other person willing to try it and pushing for it would probably use it when want a quick team. we do or own random matchmaking every time we play anyway

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  • Read my post dude. I said CoE should have matchmaking. Raids should not, there's a difference between matchmaking where nobody is in charge and finding a group where the group leader can choose who they want to invite (based off completions, grimore, light level, etc...) and can kick players who afk, troll, refuse to wipe, etc... Matchmade raids would be a complete nightmare

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  • Haha! Was thinking the same thing. There is no logical argument against optional matchmaking. Anybody who doesn't think it should be used - doesn't have to use it.

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  • [quote]Haha! Was thinking the same thing. There is no logical argument against optional matchmaking. Anybody who doesn't think it should be used - doesn't have to use it.[/quote]

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