I currently run my Lyudmila-D with Fitted Stock and Counter balance on my Secondary (titan). The only reason is I have Nerwin's mercy for my main. Lyudmila-D is a beast!

Arms Day tomorrow! Let's hope for a good roll!

I am not a fan of Hawksaw. The faster ROF style just doesn't really seem to suit me after playing with each different archetype. I have Villainy, Nirwen's, Hawksaw, Lyudmila, and Spare Change.25 all in Y2 and all with pretty legit rolls. 100% stability on Nirwen's, Braced Frame on Spare Change.25, Lyudmila from Gunsmith with Injection Mold and Rodeo, and both vendor versions of Hawksaw and Villainy which are nothing to scoff at. **Nirwen's is just butter. Laser beam. Hard not to love it. **Villainy feels similar, but without top end stability, it is a little harder to land consistent shots. If you master the recoil, you could be just as effective as Nirwen's with Villainy especially with the much more significant range. **Spare Change.25 when you have at least as much stability as the vendor Hawksaw (for comparison) can 2-burst kill pretty effectively, but the key to this one is to get Counterbalance AND Braced Frame. Pray to RNGesus. **Hawksaw vendor is quite effective, but since this out of the group is the only that requires 4 bursts to kill, I really don't think it competes, unless you're extremely good at tracking, likely a fan of AR's. Being a hand-cannon guy myself, and pausing between my shots, the higher ROF is lost on me, automatically making my TTK slower. **Lyudmila just kicks too much for my taste with the 4 bullet burst. I have the Gunsmith sold version with Rodeo and Injection Mold, but it basically just feels like a worse version of my Spare Change.

The Vanity on my hunter is better than a hawksaw

Both will lose against a spare change that hit 38 in a head shot

My Lyudmila-D only has hand laid stock and I don't find the recoil that bad at all. In fact when I get one with counter balance as well and hopefully head seeker I know it will smash in crucible. It's messenger Y2. If you don't have any stability perks I understand it being hard to handle but if you have at least hand laid stock/braced frame or counter balance then maybe you're just not that good at recoil management and should stick to the low recoil low impact pulses. Anyone who can handle the lyudmila will outgun most guardians head to head.

...... Hopscitch pilgrim........

Hawksaw fires so much faster.

The answer to the question is Nerwin's mercy.

Pdx- 41 is my favorite suros pulse. Better than hawksaw for sure. I like the herja-d the best out of the hakkes but armsday could change that this week

No time to explain is actually pretty dope.

I'm surprised there isn't people bitching about the Shadow scout rifle yet. I smack the hell out of people with it. I guess not a lot of people are good at using it. I make Hawksaw users mad.

I like the apple of discord far more, but I did get a great roll on my apple. First pulse rifle I love using in the crucible more than scout rifles

The only thing lyudmila has over hawksaw is range. I have one with counterbalance and hand laid stock and it still kicks like a horse.