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6/21/2021 8:35:58 PM
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Warlocks Need a Nuke Exotic

Hunters have Celestial Nighthawk and Titans have Cuirass of the Falling Star. Warlocks have... Geomags? Kinda? I mean Chaos Reach is a decent damage dealer, but its overall use is still closer to crowd control than actual burst damage. Point is Warlocks don't have a "true nuke" exotic that makes them DPS monsters like Nighthawk Hunters and Falling Star Titans. This becomes readily apparent in encounters like Atheon, where having more than 1 Warlock is an actual hindrance to DPS. Even with Geomags, Chaos Reach Warlocks do not pump out the average DPS of the other two. So here are two concepts: "Neutron Spear" or "Controlled Chaos". They're essentially the same effect, just adjusted to work for either Void or Arc Warlock, respectively. Effect description (Void): "Condenses Nova Bomb into a neutron star and hurls it at light speed. Can be held briefly before firing." Effect Desciption (Arc): "Condenses Chaos Reach into a singular supercharged bolt. Can be held briefly before firing." The basic idea is to give Warlocks an alternative super that is designed to just erase minibosses or cleave a huge chunk of health from main bosses. They do much more damage at the cost of a smaller area of effect. The "holding" bit is simply to allow a chance to aim, as these abilities will still likely force the player into 3rd person. Thoughts?

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  • Remember shadebinder was instant killing bosses

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  • Thought? Crucible. Anything that Bungie gives Warlocks that does tremendous damage eventually winds up in Crucible… and the e-sport wannabes start howling about it being OP. So it gets nerfed. Bungie has already said they intend to nerf Chaos Reach and TTDB. Smh.

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  • Remember Skull of Dire Ahamkara? No? I don't blame you. It wasn't an exotic like you're describing but once upon a time it at least allowed us to get a decent amount of super energy back so we could nuke more. Celestial Nighthawk gives a full third of your super back on kill as well as giving 6× damage but nope, gotta nerf that warlock helmet into the ground.

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    • Did someone say Nuke? https://twitter.com/enormeD2/status/992410285557407745?s=20

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    • A lot of y'all really think that back loaded damage=nuke. This new generation really needs to go back to school.

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    • Rework an useless warlock exotic(as they don't have many...) and it now additionally to increase its dmg also gives [i]lance[/i] to nova bomb(?)

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    • It would be better if the classes were less alike rather than more alike. Not every class needs to/should have the same shit.

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      • Do geomags count? Because with a full chaos reach with geomags it does a lot of damage

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      • In case you haven't noticed, Nighthawk does a lot less than Geomags and Thundercrash

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        • Hear me out Nuke exotic for Well of Radiance. Dropping the Well on a target staggers it and does a massive burst of damage. But the Well only lasts for half the time.

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          • Modificato da Olórin: 6/23/2021 8:20:31 AM
            Well hows about a support exotic armour piece, before my fellow Warlock mains have a go at me for driving us further down the route of support, i only have this to say... [spoiler]Shut the f*ck up.[/spoiler] Something that buffs Well of Radiance for allies, any Ally that has been buffed by Well gains an additional Buff... Call it, idk... [b]Archangels Blessing[/b], names not important, the important thing is that this buff [b]lingers[/b] after you've left Well of Radiance. Any Ally with this buff gains an increase in their Super damage, the more Damage each player has done with Archangels Blessing, the more Damage their Super will do. [b][u]Example:[/u][/b] So, say youre doing VoG Templar, Weapons of Light has been put down and its running out, your Warlock Well of Radiance then becomes your only and main source of a DMG Buff. With Archangels Blessing active, the Damage used within the Well of Radiance is being converted to all other Allies that have yet to use their Supers, say for instance the Damage buff Stacks up to x25 max (25% maximum extra Damage on Allies Supers with this Buff). x25 is based on the Damage numbers, collectively the Team has to get at least 250,000 Damage on a Boss/Combatant(s). So 10,000=1 Stack. This seems like a high number to achieve but only on smaller Fireteam's, a Fireteam of Six will easily gain x25 (250,000 Damage) of Archangel's Blessing. Since the Buff lingers outside of Well, that means most, if not all types of popular Damage Supers become even more deadly than before, even after or outside of Well of Radiance (Titan with Falling Star Thundercrash/Hunter with Celestial Golden Gun and yes, even fellow Warlocks running Nova or Chaos Reach.) so you can see where im going here. The final burst of DPS on a Boss will be subject to the Fireteam''s increased Super damage, from this Well of Radiance Exotic. Essentially giving a 'Final Blow' period at the last moments of the DPS phase. I get it, Nova Bomb seems suitable for a Nuke Exotic and I would love that, maybe even change Skull of Dire Ahamkara but you can see where Bungie has slumped our Class and it's forever Support now lads. We may as well have something that synergises with other classes.

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            • Run expunge, get to boss, use the supers you mentioned and let me know which one can actually defeat the boss during the second phase. Chaos reach with geomags can while the others cannot and leave a chunk of health.

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              • Modificato da Hexi: 6/22/2021 11:45:32 AM
                Sure, when can Titans and Hunters get an absurd buff super that every burst phase needs? Oh, never? Hell, why have classes at all? Just let everyone do everything and devolve your character into a walking gun. That sounds super exciting and stuff. Here's a crazy idea. Bare with me, this might shock some of you to your very core. Lean on your strengths instead of crying about your weaknesses.

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                • obsidian mind that has a Lance or Shatter perk choice and provides a straight up damage boost but slows ability cooldown considerably as a trade off.

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                  • jus give an exotic that turns nova bomb into a safi jiva sapphire star of the emperor

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                    • You shouldn't need an exotic to get good super damage.

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                    • Modificato da WulfPak666: 6/23/2021 1:56:57 PM
                      How about we just get more Nuke supers in general. I've grown quite tired of every super having to be a roaming one. We barely have any "1 and done" supers anymore. Warlock has Nova Bomb and Well. I guess you could count Chaos Reach but it last a good while and you paint the whole map with it if you're fast enough. Titan has 2, Bubble and Thundercrash. Hunter has 3, Single shot tether, Silence & Squal and Blade barrage. You could count Golden Gun, but you get 3 shots and are very mobile in that super as well. It may be archaic but I kind of miss the whole, "save this for the big one" moments where you'd just catch a group of guardians lacking and ker-splod them all at once instead of circling the entire map like a demi god zapping them from across the map with projectiles and such. I rarely see anyone use these 1 & done supers anymore. You still see Silence & Squal, but I don't see Nova bomb, I don't even see Thundercrash that much anymore either. It's usually Hammers, Dawnblade, ChaosReach, arc striders and I've been seeing more Defenders as of late. Damn those suppression grenades 🙃

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                      • What I must remind people is that after a Celestial or Cuiriass super, you can start using your heavy weapon to pump out more damage. Geomags are an extended super with a lot of damage, but if you compare the damage of one chaos with the damage of a Hunter or Titan who switches to a heavy for the duration of one chaos, the bonus heavy dps is more.

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                        • I actually really like this idea for Arc. However, I’d prefer that it works with Bottom Tree Stormcaller and acts similar to the storm nade i.e. you mark a target and go All-Out-Thor and summon a massive lightning bolt (with MASSIVE DAMAGE) upon said marked target. Void already has Nova Bomb, which does a significant amount of burst dps and allows you to get the bonus dps from your heavy weapons.

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                        • Modificato da ZayOsiris Gaming: 6/23/2021 5:24:43 PM
                          I wouldn’t mind an exotic that gave warlocks an option to overcharge their cataclysm nova Bomb, by holding it for twice as long. Think about it? If you decided to hold your nova Bomb, in order to build up an additional super meter (kinda like a visual overlay of the super meter bar) you could deal damage equal to 2 Cataclysms at once. It could still look the same as a normal nova bomb, and it would break PvP Because nova Bomb one shots anyone. So there you go. A new DPS tool. [u][b]Exotic Concept[/b][/u] Name: Cerebral Mind Exotic Perk: • Holding your cataclysm nova bomb increases its damage over time. Void ability kills grant additional Super Energy, when fully charged..!

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                        • Oh, you mean like Lance that we had in D1? At least for the second half of the games life I don't think it's a must. Calling it detrimental on Atheon is a bit much. Every raid team does not need to be the bleeding edge of dps to complete anything. Thanks youtube/twitch/reddit!

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                        • First of all, Warlocks can nearly out damage both Hunters and Titans - its called Fusion grenades + Sniper or Null Composure. But I agree with the sentiment. Geomags are amazing, but I dont want those to be my only choice for that sort of thing. IMO they should just make Skull of Dire Ahamakra increase Novabomb damage on top of what it already does, that way it stays relevant and warlocks get a nuke exotic. Boom.

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                          • U have chaos reach and those boots so stop whining

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                            • I'd trade Thundercrash for a Chaos Reach like super... Warlocks have a super that melts bosses like candles from a mile away, add the boots and it's a perfect symbiote.

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                              • They are called geomags

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                                • Warlocks are the ultimate support monster they buff everyone and keep them alive during dps

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