I agree with OP. I think it's very balanced. Fusion rifles have been pissing me off but I changed my approach by keeping more distance and I win every time. I've won with auto rifles, scout rifles, fusions, shotguns and sniper rifles. If your complaining about pvp balance you just suck period. No supers? Is that what you retards are arguing about. Go play call of duty. I enjoy supers and I'm never bitter about getting blade danced, golden gunned, fist of havoked, or nova bomb. It ads originality and spice to an otherwise dull shooter. Get good scrubs It's supposed to be different than halo, cod, battlefield etc. Stop saying it's not balanced because you're used to playing that shit. I've played them too, and nothing has ever been as enjoyable as destinys crucible

I feel like the PVP in Destiny is totally overlooked. It is so close to being perfectly balanced with so many variables. It is awesome and I look forward to slaying all of you in the next iron banner run.

Its not balanced, no. But its more fun that way. I've noticed. Finding the right combination of perks and equipment to make YOUR play style powerful and unstoppable is half the joy. And I think the Ppl that complain about balance are waisting their time because of the HUGE variation of gear in this game. You can't balance the millions of possible weapon, armor, & class perk combos I Like cod for its ease of play and perfect balance but this game isn't a cod clone, its a more casual experience... it actually reminds me more of uncharted a little. This is just my 2 cents on why its so fun.

This has to be a joke. A balanced PvP is Gears of War. Apart from lag, the game is very balanced. No special powers, no easy mode weapons, everyone has the same load out with few variations, all power weapons are pick ups that only 1 person can have and only respawn after all ammo is used. It's strategic, it's competitive, and it's fair. All with still being a very fun and challenging PvP. Destiny is an arena shooter which are notorious for random deaths and chaos. It's basically CoD with supercharges (broad generalization). Over half of the weapons have 1 hit kill abilities with very minimal effort. There's an abundance of heavy and special ammo which just promotes abusing the abilities of specials weapons and rocket spam. (Sniper camping, shotgun slide, fusion rifle is basically a primary). There are several people who don't touch their primary weapons the entire game because of how effective shotguns and fusion rifles are. This game plays itself. You could be going 0-10 and be rewarded with a time based supercharge which is basically instant kills for no effort. Then go pick up heavy ammo and spam some rockets at the red markers you see on your radar and you're guaranteed kills. I rarely die by actually being shot by primaries. I'd say 85% of my deaths are 1 hit kill weapons (rockets, shotguns, fusion rifles) with a mix of nova bomb, fist of havoc, and arc blade. Sometimes golden gun, and the sticky grenades (fusion, magnetic, and flux). The only primary I notice I die by often is Suros Regime. I won't even touch on server issues or the completely random spawn system. (quick example: Twilight Gap - I admittedly lost a 1v1, respawn across the map, take 5 steps forward and die by a rocket because I spawned within 10 meters of an enemy who saw me spawn on his radar) Love this game, but PvP is only good for marks and XP/bounties. PvE - awesome. Repetitive but very fun with minimal issues and flows extremely well. PvP - unbalanced, plagued with lag, no actual spawn system as you'll spawn on enemies flag points for no apparent reason or with an enemy right next to you, abundance of 1 hit kill abilities/weapons, grenades and melee powers regen instead of picked up, basically uncontrolled chaos twitch shooter. TL;DR: the balance in this PvP is nonexistent. Balanced games are Gears of War and Halo, where the most powerful weapons are pick ups only, not on you at all times, and have somewhat sensible spawn points to prevent dying within 2 seconds of your respawn. Waiting for git rekt responses.

My and a fireteam went in yesterday at lvl 9&5 owned yeah. No balance at all

Go smoke another rock!

No , no it's not , it just isn't , sorry

I'm right there with you. I come from 13 years of Halo, and which has turned toxic over "equal starts" and weapons/aim/sprint//other controversy. Destiny doesn't worry about any of it. Worried about the type of sight your BR has? Bah, Destiny gives you 3 to choose from! A 1-hit kill Boltshot ruining your day? Destiny gives everyone a 1-hit kill special weapon slot- standard. And then they give you a heavy weapon, standard! Sticky grenades causing controversy at loadout? Whatevs, Destiny lets you switch between 3. The classes, perks, weapons, ammo, and scoring have made Destiny my new most favorite PVP since Halo. And that, friends, is saying a lot!

Matchmaking constantly pairs skilled players with unskilled players. Primary weapons' Time To Kill is too long for the majority of players to bother, which is why everyone abandons their AR and instead runs around with a shotgun or fusion rifle. The abundance of special ammo ensures that these players don't need to use their Primary and can exclusively use their ridiculously long-range Found Verdict and unparalleled Plan C. Warlock gets a melee that immediately grants a shield for no reason. Titan gets a melee that immediately obliterates anyone in their path for no reason. Warlock gets an additional grenade as a perk when the Titan, who most appropriately fits the Discipline attribute, has to equip an Exotic just to achieve the same effect. Both Titan classes have underwhelming grenades with the exception of the Magnetic Grenade. Hunter's abilities, movement, and Super are unmatched in PVP. Suros Regime reigns supreme as the only Primary weapon worth using because of its Time To Kill, with the exception of Hawkmoon and The Last Word. I could go on, but I think my post illustrates some of the unbalanced features in this broken multiplayer game; and if you think my lack of skill is the foundation for my many complaints, I invite you to check my K/D, so you can see I'm competent.