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Modifié par Champagne Naps :
11/28/2014 5:17:08 AM
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People are still having a hard time with the relic?!
I was doing the hard raid last night. And only myself, and two others knew how to use the relic. The three who had no relic experience were teleported and completely panicked over the relic and ended up dying in Mars.
Seriously. What's so hard about it? If you need help ask, don't just sit there guessing what to do.
Edit: It's nice to see so many of you giving advice on how to use the relic to those indeed of help! Practice makes perfect (:
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7 commentairesModifié par Tekn0z : 11/27/2014 6:14:00 PMBelieve it or not, I've died getting sniped in the air by 3 goblins at once even when I was level 30. I think my jump in the air 10000 feet and ground slam technique doesn't work in hard raid, even worse if they are spread out a little. I have seen other team mates try to get the surprise on the goblins by running up to them from the right side (and asking team mates NOT to throw grenades). I've only done the hard mode raid once, I need to try other approaches than ground slamming all the hobgoblins at once. There are literally no tutorials or videos that demonstrates the various ways to take down the mobs. And so far EVERY SINGLE group I've raided with don't help with the adds, they just stand there waiting for the oracles to spawn. Anyway, everyone learns one way or another.
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The relic is fun to use but that Minotaur in Venus is a bell end.
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2 commentairesKnowledge is Power but Experience is Key. You can know all day long how to use it, but that doesn't help without experience. I've noticed people scared to touch it because some of the bad attitudes toward anyone that messes up with it. Raging and not being cool to anyone that messes up will keep them scared of trying, making them burdens.
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3 commentairesi'm the relic holder in my group all the time (if i'm teleported) the only problem that concerns me when holding the relic still to this day is in venus with that damned regenerating Minotaur. normally i'd take the mobs out and the other 2 take the oracles, but that regenerating Minotaur from min health back to max can be really annoying
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What we generally do before a raid is pick four people who are going to pick up the relic, 2 who will always pick up the relic if teleported and 2 who will if the other 2 don't get teleported, that generally sorts things out before the arguments.
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1 commentaireI was always like " someone else get it ! " but now I just grab it and have a go or you'll never learn !
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A few days ago, hard raid with a full fireteam of six 30s, only one other person other than myself was able to use it. Countless wipes at the teleport because no one would pick it up. One guy even got it and had no idea how to cleanse. Seriously..? How do you make it to level 30 without ever becoming even sliiightly knowledgeable with the relic?
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7 commentairesThat's a real shame. But pet peeve.. It's NOT Mars and Venus. It's ALL Venus, you are transported through time to the future or past. Thus the barren area ( the past) and the jungle (future) As its overgrown with time.
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4 commentairesOne question I do have about the relic... If me and a partner are on oracle duty and the relic holder dies, what should we do? This is what I'd assume is correct but tell me if I'm wrong. Firstly tell someone else to come in to help take care of oracles. Me and my partner both go down to where the relic was dropped as by now our screens would be fairly black. One person grabs and tries to cleanse whilst both standing next to each other, all while the person who joined us is shooting oracles. I instantly try and mop up the enemies that remain with the Jump'n'Smash and the relic bash, while my partner assists in taking out the oracles. Once all oracles and enemies are destroyed we head to the portal, I cleanse them as they go through and I then follow and carry on as normal, just a man down?
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All you do is rage slam, then rage shoulder push. Then rage snipe and miss by a mile on your first try.
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It's seriously the same as playing your character. Just with different abilities.
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I'm awesome with it on normal but just ok on Hard because this week was 1st Hard raid
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It's just practice that misses, normally I'm raiding with the same team and we have our "I take the relic" Guys. If I'm raiding with randys I don't want to be guy who makes a wipe cus less experience.
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I used to be in this position, but ever since I was left to deal randy the random noobs in a raid I'm the guy that picks up the shield because I seem more capable then some idiots I raid with. Since a Titan has more durability I eventually need to pick it up
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I love using the relic, I'm straight away holding down square when I get teleported. Not used a maxed out corrective measure on the oracles yet, but they can be a real pain in the ass
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Some people just won't learn, it's super easy to use. [quote]The three who had no relic experience were teleported and completely panicked over the relic and ended up dying in Mars. [/quote] Pretty much happens [b]EVERY[/b] raid.
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Modifié par thtguyericcc : 11/28/2014 6:21:40 AMLol I know how to use it because of the normal raid but the other day I got teleported as the only level thirty and we all looked at eachother.. after we wiped I realized that it was my fault because I was supposed to pick it up but forgot due to me just getting to 30 last week and always letting the level 30 grab it... but now I'm on the other side. With great power, comes great responsibility
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8 commentairesMaybe cuz every one says to ask for help rather than just out right explain it
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Every lvl30 needs to learn how to use the relic. I don't want to hear "Im not touching the relic" come out of a level30s mouth. Grow a pair and represent the raid/IB gear RNG gave you.
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Not sure what the issue is myself. Relic is very easy. Jump right trigger to do the slam move. Right bumper to do the shoulder charged move. Left bumper to do the cleanse and shield move. Right and left bumper to do the super move. Here is a good video from Datto Does Destiny showing 2 ways to do the Atheon fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6zhr_6UC8Y&list=UUkmAjbIecTIjTQctolYeuDw He makes a good point by saying that if you are a Titan in the raid and you get teleported then your job should be to grab the relic. Titan's supers are not very useful in the that zone. Hunters can golden gun and one shot the oracles, and mobs. Warlocks can Nova Bomb and take out the mobs easily enough. Also when you are on Mars left side and you exit, the center platform is to the left, Venus is right side and the platform is to the right when you exit. Get down there and Relic shield up and your good to go.
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When I do the raid I never bother with the relic.
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5 commentairesGuess what pal, new people come to game and hit 30 (29) and usually things go so that there is a first time for everyone in raid. Amazing, I know.
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It's hard when the minotaurs revive themselves
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Modifié par NathanW18 : 11/28/2014 6:02:02 AMSome people obviously never use it. They never get any practice and when they have no choice, they fail at using it. It's not hard to use, but many people seem to be scared of using it.
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What a lot of people fail to realize (and I'm always willing to help if anyone has never done the raid and wants someone to guide them through it or just needs a sixth) is that the game itself teaches you the raid long before you're ever of a level to do the raid. Did you do the Sword of Crota mission? Of course you did. Didn't it show you how that when holding a RELIC, like the Sword, or the Relic, that your buttons do different things when wielding it? If you're not familiar with how the Relic works, it's just like the Sword of Crota, only more blasty. Same controls as the Sword, just slightly different results. If you've been on Venus and got the Stop Sacrifices public event, it's the exact same thing in the Templar room and the middle of Atheon's room. Protect the Conflux from crazy Vex killing themselves. Same basic principles, different situation. All in all, though, if you're in VoG and not familiar with the Relic, and need to pick it up (when Atheon teleports 3 people or the Relic holder dies) go ahead and pick it up and give it to someone who is comfortable with it. In the meantime, watch some videos on the Vault. With the changes of Atheon picking random 3 instead of designated 3, everyone needs to know and be comfortable in every role of the Vault. With the new raid coming, we'll all need to learn more, but VoG will always be part of what we all need to know going forward.
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2 buttons. Explain it to them waste 10 or 15 minutes wiping letting them get the hang of it. U will probably waste the same amount of time hoping that 1 of your 2 players that knows how to use it gets teleported.
