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Modifié par Le Dustin xddddd :
4/18/2014 5:29:57 PM
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Politics question
So gun control. Isn't that more of a security vs freedom debate like NSA spying and shit? I mean there's nothing liberal about taking away guns or anything. I mean unless the stereotypes are true and liberals are just some pussy ass bitches who cry and scare over shit like this.
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There was this Cali Democrat politician who was staunchly pro-gun control because he was selling guns illicitly at higher prices thanks to gun regulations
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1 commentaireKeeping guns out of the hands of sane, law abiding citizens is a terrible idea that won't solve much. Background checks are a better idea.
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1 commentairedid jesus have a gun? no? so we shouldn't either.
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14 commentairesModifié par General Solus : 4/18/2014 8:00:27 PMI support guns but the states allowing anyone to buy guns with one of the only restriction being their age are ran by retarded, uneducated lawmakers. Since some people will be butthurt I will deliver some sauce to cool that ache [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/16/the-6-craziest-state-gun-laws/]1. Concealed carry at 16 — with no permit: Most states that allow people to carry a concealed weapon on their person require gun owners to obtain a permit before doing so. But four states — Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming and Vermont — allow concealed carry without any permit. That means, the Brady Campaign's Brian Malte tells me, that Jared Loughner was in full compliance with Arizona law up until the moment he used his concealed weapons to kill six people and severely injure Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.[/url]
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4 commentairesGuns and religious believe and drugs I think are what ruined America. gangs in every city and lots of debates and cults about religion and drugs too .Britain and European country's aren't like that
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Needs more restrictions [spoiler]nice b8[/spoiler]
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10 commentairesI think people need to realize that there will never be one definitive right answer to this question. It will depend from place to place depending on how responsible people in the area will be with guns, how strict gun control is, and tons of other factors. Both "Free guns for all" and "No guns for anyone ever" are flawed and even different shades of grey are wrong in certain situations.
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5 commentairesGuns shouldn't be banned. There should be restrictions on what guns people can buy (you don't need an M60), and thorough background checks.
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1 commentaireWhen people stop banning "assault rifles" and the aesthetics of guns because they look scary then we can talk. Or when they address the actual problem which is gang on gang violence with mostly handguns. That's where most gun deaths come from, handguns, yet no one is arguing about banning those. Only "assault rifles".
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Gun ownership is one of those things I'm more conservative about. I think citizens should have the right to own any firearm they want, so long as they're responsible, competent, and pass a background check.
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While it had been proven to lower the amount of gun related violence when firearms are banned, I believe it's not a matter of removing these weapons from the hands of civilians, but rather keeping the available weapons in check. Limitation, not prohibition. As we have seen before, banning an item will only lead to more individuals pursuing ownership, as well as opening an unchecked and unregulated black market, where the worst of criminals can flourish from profits. So, what's the answer? It's quite simple, in my opinion. [u]Strict background checks[/u], [u]ammunition limitations [/u](magazines for full-auto should be limited to 10-15, and semi-auto 15-20), [u]purchase restrictions[/u] (certain firearms demand certification for usage, so if you want an M60, you've gotta pay for the class and spend the time learning how to use this weapon responsibly, as well as register this vastly dangerous weapon with local law enforcement and so on) and routine check ups, depending on the selected weapons (perhaps a renewal of a license every couple years, with a mandatory class). So yea, that's what I think.
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Modifié par TrussingDoor : 4/18/2014 3:39:22 PMI believe in a small degree of regulation, but yeah I've never considered any type of ban to be a "liberal" practice.
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4 commentairesModifié par Madman Mordo : 4/18/2014 1:25:45 PMIf tighter gun control regulations is [i]really[/i] such a freedoms issue like the libertarians purport it to be, then I'd like to see some hard evidence as to how unrestricted, unmonitored, and unregulated access to pretty much any firearm under the sun is a somehow more beneficial option. Protip: I'm not talking about a complete across the board ban on all guns. Background checks and firearm bans on those with mental health issues/criminal tendencies is what I'm advocating.
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15 commentairesModifié par WhitePowder : 4/18/2014 6:42:01 AMLiberals are idiots. If you haven't noticed almost all of the places that have mass shootings are "gun free zones". Fort Hood, Newtown, Columbine, Aurora theater, etc all gun free zones. In Mexico guns are illegal yet look at their crime problems. Their cities make Detroit look like candy land. American citizens have guns so we can overtake our government if it gets too tyrannical. [b]"When you outlaw guns only outlaws have guns"[/b]
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What the -blam!- are you actually asking in this question?
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Here is another
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They should tax ammo.
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out of my cold dead hands. No shit, take my 9mm S&W sigma series,, like 500$ i can go couple blocks down the way and scoop a 38 special for 150$ out of a trunk. Soo all my shits legit. Am i the problem? No. The meatball selling the guns out of trunk and hte -blam!- tards buying them and capping eachother.
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Modifié par Progo : 4/18/2014 2:44:33 AMThe NRA wants mental health to be in background checks, as of last time I looked it up. As for owning guns in general, yes I do value my life and what I can contribute to society over the life of a robber or vicious animal, as soon as I'm old enough I'm getting a CC permit and a Ruger. So I think it's a personal rights question.
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18 commentaires[quote]Isn't that more of a security vs freedom debate[/quote] Gun control takes away both security and freedom.
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20 commentairesModifié par IchEsseKinder : 4/18/2014 2:36:12 AMSo it's perfectly fine to limit gun ownership but completely wrong to implant voter IDs? How many times do I have to say it: I AM NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS A FAILED MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM AND THE GOVERNMENT
