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Modifié par Aspersio : 12/2/2013 8:00:53 PM
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The reason Bungie/Activision is pro-Ps4.

Bungie is a dev company with a great deal of international influence. They have a massive following in many different countries, the biggest of which is Germany. North American Microsoft Xbox fans do not understand these things, because the majority of them live in a cultural bubble, and think every dev team revolves around them. Bungie's partnership with publisher Activision and the push in the SONY direction is an obvious business move. Not only does PS4 now have a bigger global influence, but they have a more diverse following. Microsoft is almost entirely a North American push, and Bungie/Activision isn't interested in limiting the potential it has with Destiny, which is why Bungie/Activision has not made Destiny exclusive to SONY. So, instead of textually crying all over our eyes, Xbox owners should rejoice, because they can actually play it.
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  • I think post like this are stupid. Bungie is not owned by activision, and i agree that there trying to entice a new set of gamers. But at least acknowledge both fan bases as EQUALS. It doesn't have to be in the form of DLC(which we still don't know what it is yet) or early release shit(which everyone will eventually play), just acknowledge the fanbase whose been with you through this journey. Make a video calming everyone down, and just explaining to people, "that we will treat everyone equally PERIOD, and that everyone should look forward to destinys future" "and that Xbox fans should welcome the new PS family" i would be satisfied with that, it's that simple. There a multiplatform dev appealing to one set of gamers, instead of everyone. So you can't blame the fan base whose defended and been with them the longest from being neglected. "So, instead of textually crying all over our eyes, Xbox owners should rejoice, because they can actually play it." Xbox fans+ Halo fans=Bungie fans i expect to play it but you have that sentence twisted, PlayStation fans should be lucky there playing destiny, considering a bungie product hasn't been on the system for years or ever.....just sayin

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    • Really this is just something people are going to have to get used to. I don't know the exact mechanics here, but I imagine it works something like this: Console exclusives are a nightmare for a dev. They want the audience from both consoles and PC if they can manage it. Ask a business if they'd rather sell to a million people or 2 million people, they'll pick the second option. Now, it seems to me like more devs than before are going multiplatform. This makes sense, but, it hurts the console maker in that they can't say, "Hey if you want to play Destiny, you need to buy a PS4." So, the makers, Sony or MS, approaches a company like Bungie and says, "Hey, you don't have to make a game exclusively for us, but how about we pay you a bit to make extra content for our console." This way, someone on the fence between consoles may say, "Huh, I really, really want to play Destiny, and I can play it on Xbox or Playstation, but PS has more content for it. I think I'll get a PS." I think we'll see more and more of this. Just like there's a bonus 60 minutes of gameplay on AC IV on PS4. It's just a theory, no basis in fact or exposed legal contracts, but it makes sense to me.

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      • Actually, it's to get back at Microsoft. After Halo CE's success, they were forced to pump out Halo 2 in a short period of time, which is why the ending of campaign was such a cliffhanger ending, and MP being sub par pre patch. With Halo 3, they wanted the game to be done, and were burnt out of Halo at the time, but we're forced to make 2 more games. They were already in the concepts of Destiny, so they decided to test hub world/open world story telling, and special abilities and new shooting mechanics in Reach's MP. Also, activision wants CoD to succeed on Xbox and Destiny on Playstation. So it's partly Bungie and partly Activision. In my opinion at least.

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      • I think the reason of the PS preference is Bungie doesn't master it like they master the Xbox system. So they need to work more on the Playstation. That why they are making the beta in priority on the Sony console. It's the purpose of a beta, correct the bugs. (i'm not sur if i am clear)

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        • Modifié par Spartan Ken 15 : 12/4/2013 4:06:03 PM
          It is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, Sony made a deal with Activision who, as part of their contract, made Bungie have content for Playstation. It could have been just as easily done for the Xbox but likely Activision or Microsoft were either not interested or didn't want to pay.

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        • I agree with some of the comment you've made but you bashing Xbox gamers isn't the best way to explain something.

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        • So...you don't know what you're talking about lol

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          • Modifié par Saxoclone : 12/3/2013 12:48:36 AM
            I really don't care what happens as far as content or platforms, but some of it does strike me as... at odds, shall we say, with the attitude that Bungie has presented in the past. In their "O Brave New World" ViDoc, there was comment about how the company culture before the acquisition at Microsoft had been very "F*** the man" and it was also explained that the reason they wanted to leave Microsoft was so that they could be independent not only in a legal sense, but also independent to make their own decisions--which I assumed was implying not only creative decisions, but also more business-side decisions such as platforms or exclusivity. I interpreted this as them basically rejoicing not only that they had creative freedom for their game and ideas, but also that they didn't have to be pigeon-holed into making it for one console anymore, not even having to make content exclusive to any one platform. They could put everyone on equal ground and please everyone and disappoint no one because they didn't have to make concessions to any one company. They were subservient to no one. And yet here we stand, with one company being favored over the other (note that I say "company" because I would have the same reaction regardless of which company was which). Regardless of whether or not people believe it to be fair, no one could deny that some fans feel disappointment about not having certain content or an equal experience. And that is what I find strange. The idea that Bungie would allow that to happen, whether it is due to Activision or the platform owners, after all they've said about being independent and wanting to explore their new ideas without being limited by others. Perhaps I'm reading too much into what has been said about their company culture. Destiny is still my most-anticipated title for the future and I'm still a big fan of Bungie. But that has been my take on the situation.

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            • We don't think that. Or at least most of us don't. I love how you PS gamers think everyone on Xbox is a child, it makes me laugh how ignorant you are.

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            • [quote]They have a massive following in many different countries, the biggest of which is Germany.[/quote] Any source on this ? Do you realise that the One is shipping in all the same places that the PS4 is shipping ?

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            • It's where the industry is heading. Both console manufacturers are going to throw money at publishers and dev companies in order to get timed-exclusivity to try to get a leg up on their competition. We saw this with Skyrim when Microsoft reached into its very deep pockets and got that timed-exclusivity for all of Skyrim's DLC, even over the PC crowd. Destiny is just another skirmish in that war, and the Destiny battle goes to Sony for the timed-exclusives with Destiny. But we see this with many multiplat franchises, and we'll see more. I can guarantee that. As long as we as Gamers continue to throw our money at this industry, they'll continue to wage this back-and-forth battle on a nigh infinite scale.

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              • I knew I shouldn't have clicked this thread based on that title alone... -blam!-ing #Destiny, you guys really need to stfu...

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                • YOU, my friend, are totally 100% right. Your topic is my favorite to date. I Like it. I was an Xbox and Xbox360 user since their releases, only to play Halo 1-2-3 on it. But since Bungie left Halo and Microsoft in 2010, i knew that Halo died at the exact same time. RIP Halo Trilogy. Anyway, ANY BUNGIE True FAns should follow in their step and buy the ps4. If not, your only a kid who never played Halo Trilogy, or you re just not a True Bungie Fan, or not one at all.

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                  • Bungie/Activision has made Destiny more favorable to PS to offset what Activision/Xbox is doing to CoD: Ghosts.

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                    • Here is my opinion: PS4 have Bungie on their side for Destiny. However, i do not see any exclusives that are as amazing as the ones on the Xbox One. For example, Titanfall, Ryze, Forza and Halo. Do not get me wrong on Halo, it is not nearly good as Bungie did it but it remains Halo which means that a lot of people will buy it. My point about all that is that I feel that a lot of people are buying a PS4 for being the favorites of Bungie. I love Bungie and I am hyped for Destiny, however i will buy a Xbox One because Destiny is not the only game that I will play. Have a nice day!

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                    • There's a lot of truth in this. The PS4 is a more powerful system and geared towards gamers. Microsoft is more concerned with being an "all in one" entertainment system.

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                    • Perfectly put. I hold the same thoughts.

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                    • Not buying it.

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                    • Modifié par FairlySplendid : 12/2/2013 7:12:31 PM
                      I agree that reaching a global market definitely plays a part in the Bungie-Activision-Sony partnership. If this weekend was any indication, the PS4 is doing really well in the states and especially abroad. I privately share the same theory, but this is as good as time as any to discuss it openly.

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                      • Modifié par FairlySplendid : 12/3/2013 2:18:12 AM
                        This Eurogamer post seems to add some credit to your theory. If Bungie truly has plans for [b][u]world[/u][/b] domination, having a foot-hold in the PS4 market seems to be the way: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-ps4-fastest-selling-console-in-uk-history PS4's out sold X1 by 100k consoles in the UK. That's a lot of potential Guardians.

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                      • I don't care

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                      • Shut up, Activision calls all of the marketing shots, not BNG. Activision is the publisher. The real motive behind this move, [i]I think[/i], is that Ps4 is less of an entertainment system (xb1) and is more of a system for gamers. If sales is what Activision is going for, then I think they will sell more copies to Ps4 than to xb1. Also keep in mind that Ps4 preorders sold out in a matter of a few days and they are still currently outselling the xb1 in European countries AND the United States.

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