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Modifié par Forever Berg :
1/18/2013 10:52:27 PM
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I'm Catholic (in a sense, I pick and choose what I believe) and I go to a Jesuit school (basically Catholics with liberal views on interpreting the Bible and social matters) and I have no idea what you are talking about OP. Christians are humans and no better off than anyone else. All Christians are imperfect and have free will and can be a Christian and be full of hate. Look at many Church's views on gays, that's completely hateful. Being Christian means nothing more than believing in Christ.
And Satan doesn't exist. The temptations in the desert? That was Jesus's human self just tempting him to abuse the power that he has. The only other main mentions of Satan? In the Old Testament as a way for people to scare each other into acting nice so that they wouldn't be sent to hell.
I see a Christian as someone who has a belief and follows it, there is nothing special with them.
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Catholics believe in something ALMOST entirely different than other Christian groups (like Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Luthuren, etc. etc. etc.).
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I personally know Catholics that believe in Purgatory. And that the Pope can excommunicate you from Heaven... Which of the later I find absolutely preposterous. No man on this Earth can block you from gaining access into Heaven.
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Completely agree And just saying....but in school we've been learning some stuff about the Catholic faith. From what I gathered form it....the Pope can supposedly send people to Heaven. If he can do that....why doesn't he grant access to Heaven to everyone?
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Also, when I was in High School, my World History teacher that he did Excommunicate us all in America for Bill Clinton's little incident.
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I am Catholic, and your teacher is a moron. None of that is true, and you know nothing of Catholicism. In-fact, none of the crud up above is true. The Pope cannot grant people access to Heaven, or deny people access to it. That is a load of nonsense and whoever taught either of you that is just making up a bunch of bull, and you should be more weary of what you believe.
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Modifié par HurtfulTurkey : 1/19/2013 8:01:28 AMSome examples of Catholic doctrine that do not conform to what is in the Bible: -Immaculate conception of Mary -Exaltation of Mary -Prayer to Mary and the Saints -Confession through a priest -Repentance through works -Transubstantiation -Papal infallibility -Tradition is equal to or sometimes supersedes what is written in the Bible
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Then please... Educate us!
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It's not nonsense, it's just old doctrine. But you wouldn't know that because you're too busy being butthurt at some inaccuracies.
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Modifié par BC : 1/19/2013 6:20:32 AMThe offer of indulgences no longer exists since the counter reformation, and Martin Luther's Thesis I'm catholic, and everything that was said now is wrong. Catholics have believed the same thing since the church began, and are the only church with history to back us up. Christians and Catholics are very alike, just Catholics are more "Orthodox" or by the book. Like, I can sit through a regular catholic mass, but when I go to a Christian mass with bands, I feel like this can't be taken seriously. But all in all, we're essentially the same, but have small differences in beliefs That being said, some priests and deacons who interpret the bible are complete morons and know nothing of the faith. People like them give all of us a bad name. I personally don't believe in looking at the bible as literal, because if you teach or talk to someone in that stand point you sound wrong and can say stuff wrong. The real way to teach the word is by being down to earth.
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Modifié par HurtfulTurkey : 1/19/2013 8:01:23 AMSome examples of Catholic doctrine that do not conform to what is in the Bible: -Immaculate conception of Mary -Exaltation of Mary -Prayer to Mary and the Saints -Confession through a priest -Repentance through works -Transubstantiation -Papal infallibility -Tradition is equal to or sometimes supersedes what is written in the Bible
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1. We believe what the bible says 2. Same as 1 3. We do not worship Mary or the saints, we ask for their intercession 4. I don't get what you mean on this one 5. Same as 4 6. No clue what that is (sorry) 7. Same as 4 8. Sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture go hand and hand
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1. The Bible does not say anything about Mary being free of sin; in fact, it says "for [i]all[/i] have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" - Romans 3:23, emphasis added. 2-3. This is from the book of Revelations, where John bows to pray to an angel, and the angel's response: "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said to me, "Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy," -Rev. 19:10 Prayer is an act of worship, so it is reserved exclusively for God. 4. Only through Jesus are sins forgiven; confessing to a priest or a brother in Christ is very good, but Catholicism teaches that it is necessary for forgiveness to confess to a priest; it is not necessary. 5. Jesus says any acts of good work are worthless without faith in God, because that is the only requirement for salvation. Catholicism teaches that doing good deeds is necessary for salvation. 6. Transubstantiation is the teaching that the wine and bread [u]literally[/u] become the body and blood of Christ when consumed. It is entirely unBiblical. 7. Papal infallibility is the teaching that the Pope is entirely exempt from error and sin. See #1 for why that is not true. 8. It may go hand in hand, but when tradition supersedes Biblical teachings (see 1-7), it is no longer worthy of following. I sincerely hope this clears things up for you; the link I attached is much more comprehensive than this post.
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Going back to the Christian church service and bands thing...not every Christian church is like that. The church I go to doesn't have bands but has a choir and they're very strict and by the book as well. We use the KJV.
