Yeah like my input about heat weapons it is valid because I do have the heat pulse rifle tier 5 the heat scout rifle tier 4 the heat machine gun tier 5 from the dungeon. They are good weapons it's just the damage is really really bad it's slow damage. I don't know since that's what I've been noticing now that bungie wants to make the game harder but they also want weapon damage for bosses to be very slow as we saw with videos from streamers when they try to solo a dungeon or a raid or even with a full team the damage is very very slow regardless of your build. It's like professional gamers and a elist just don't want to acknowledge the fact that look at the desert raid it took them hours to hours even some people took them to complete the raid that's insane that's what players want slow a** damage everything's a bullet sponge. It's no wonder that bungie reported that back then 70% of people who did contest mode for the desert raid actually cheated they cheated because they couldn't play the f****** content because it was so unbalanced. bungee couldn't complete it. I don't understand the appeal for artificial difficulties and to have harder content for garbage rewards I just don't get it I really don't. Like I looked at the statistics from 2019 forsaken player numbers were above million now it's down to 100k ever since they introduced sunsets vault content seasonal content artificial difficulties you see where I'm going by this all the choices they may since forsaken has sunk this game down the Atlantic ocean literally... I know this kind of stuff doesn't work but they keep doing it that's pure insanity.. They want to please streamers they want to please their paid supporters even if it ruins the reputation as a video game company. I know some people argue because bungie got a new CEO it will be better that's not a guarantee he'll be better it might be worse.

Yeah and if we are going to talk about the heat weapons like stand like I don't mind the reload animation it reminds me of borderlands torque weapons but the weapon damage overall for heat weapons it's awful... I just feel like buns he just wants to make the game harder with every content drop and now they want to affect the weapons as well.. Almost like they just want you to do ability spam that's one of the reasons I decided to invest in a build where I have a 100 stats for every stat except for grenade because I rarely use grenade. Ever since I did that and I combined it with an exotic class item with inmost light I've been doing pretty good in harder content but cutthroat modifier it is unbalanced as f*** it is terrible.

[quote]What was the point in making them heat based weapons that require cooling if they ALSO require ammo? 2 negatives and no real positives to these things, we gotta worry about ammo and the damn things overheating? Really hope there's a way to target farm the primary weapons then, since I won't be using the ammo AND cooling ones at all.[/quote] Heat weapons do more damage than non heat weapons. They naturally cool when not in use, even if they are stowed. Many have larger magazines than non heat weapons, unless dynamic, which just means they do more damage and cool faster. Heat weapons are just powercreep lol. They did a good job making them desirable.

The damage done to reload time isn't there. Bungie are a buncha idiots. "These weapons hit HARD! Not hard enough to be worth it being my birthday every time I reload. -blam!- 🤦‍♂️🤣

With this logic, you must not use any guns in the game outside primaries since you have to worry about ammo AND reloading. The IQ of this forums has hit an all time low 😂