The spray and pray meta is garbage

The whole special thing is stupid…. Who even asked for it, nothing fun about being pumped with special when u don’t have any over and over

Top 1%?????? Man I beat top tier player when it’s scrims but I get -blam!- on by any bit with an auto rifle and you want to k ow why? Because it’s harder to miss with an auto than it is to hit your shots

Yeah, 140 HC's have become that much more oppressive when playing against players who can consistently 3 tap.

I haven’t played 6s with the changes so I’m not talking about that but 3s are awful. What were the changes supposed to fix: -Make it more clear what you died to and why -Increase the skill in primary gunfights -Reduce ability spam -Reduce special ammo dominance Did it fix these? Eh… barely. Is it more clear what you died to and why? Not really. In a 1v1 maybe, but team shots insta killing you the nanosecond one pixel of your player model is visible doesn’t seem very clear to me. People magically having special some of the time also makes the game much less clear as there’s no indication of who has it and when. Increase skill in primary fights? As a whole yes, but everyone just gravitates to weapons that have perks or other qualities that make them feel exactly the same as before. Hardly any more skill in the gunfights if you’re using a Target Lock Prosecutor or Precision Instrument Igneous. Reduce ability spam? Hardly. And the reduction of special weapons has made some abilities much better (Peregrine shoulder charge, Bubble, Well, barricades, overshields, etc). Many of the most egregious outliers effectively got buffed as there’s no special ammo to consistently counter them. Longer average round times with more total damage dealt also means that supers and other abilities still get used pretty much just as much if not more than before in total over the course of a game. And reduced special dominance? Nope. Just put a bandaid by reducing up time and tying it entirely to a snowball mechanic. Truly a genius idea. The previous special sandbox was a non-issue besides Snipers which received a nerf anyways. Overall, my assessment is that the update failed to fix any of the problems the Crucible sandbox had, exacerbated some of the already sour spots such as Barricades, Overshields, Bubble, and Well, and created a whole new set of problems such as team shot camping. I respect people who can enjoy it, I’m not having 0 fun either, but if we’re using the criteria Bungie set out as the goals for this update they’ve missed the mark on pretty much all of them.

Benefits people who can aim

[quote]It was the made clear these new adjustments made to pvp where to lure and drive new players and pve players to the pvp play lists. Unfortunately, it's had the opposite effect. Only benefits the 1% pvp players. Also, match making is a joke! Most matches are laggy af! Data seems pretty clear the bungie team is from the government and they're here to help....... I suggest undo the mess you created.[/quote] I see your point here. You are a shotty main and you’d like your endless ammo back. The thought of hitting more than one time to get your reward is tedious. You want easy mode back.

I swear bungie mentioned how this update was specifically meant to widen the skill gap and reward skill. It wasn't meant to attract new players or pve players at all. Lightfall in general has been them trying to appease to higher skill communities.

I was shocked to find out Bungie wasn't gonna allow you robots to spawn up shoot 2 witherhoard shots and die all game.