Yall have single handedly ruined whatever fun used to be in pvp. I have uninstalled the game 3 times now just thinking to my self i can come back... but everytime i do .. i meet up with the ultimate sweat lords in pvp and just cant seem to have any fun at all .. i spawn .. die .. spawn .. die etc. I get where you guys want a fair a balanced part in your "pvp" community but this .. what youve done .. is horrible and just unfun.. i watch streamers literally sweating there absolute hiny off just to try and make something out of what yall have created .. is this what you wanted .. did you want the player base to die? Did you guys intened to make crucible a frustrating and unenjoyable experiance.. you used to be able to try new loadouts ... try a new gun.. i dunno try a different build but now in order to do that you gotta be in the top 1% of skilled players to even try and do decent with anything other than a meta loadout.. yall should take some time and actually listen to a community that will sooner or later give up on your game ...the worst part about it .. is that the people like me that have given up .. will never give yall a second chance. Ignorance is one thing .. but down right neglect... that is something a person like me who has some serious deep pockets just doesnt have anytime for .. Destiny used to be a great game.. but whoever you guys put in charge of the pvp scene over there.. theyre down right clueless.