We need a choice in every pkaylist. Let the players chose if they want SBMM or CBMM.

It is because the streamers/sweaties are complaining about SBMM. They do not want to play matches where they have to play (close to) balanced matches all the time. It's bungies desperate act to save trials from failing again due to no engagement and to appease the angry streamers (less than 5% engagement). I watched a vid about power creep in trials, and the numbers look TERRIBLE. Bungie has always sympathized with the streamers/sweaties not having as much fun because if they have challenging matches all the time they aren't having fun. It is more fun to go into a match and dominate the enemy. I believe they said this multiple times when people recalling for SBMM originally. This is also why they wait so long to fix broken weapons sometimes. People like to feel overpowered, makes the game more fun for them. I don't expect better players to go easy on a team just because the team is getting ruined it's not fair to either side. SBMM was to balance things out in pvp. Really sorry for the sweaties that they're good at a game and have to face people that are equally as good. You can just see that bungie only cares about their hardcore players because they don't care about the casual players The toxic sweaties will always say "get good at the game". Not everybody can play on the same level, some people just simply play better (it is like everything else in life, academics, sports, budjeting, growing up, ect.). Some people have slower reaction times and are less coordinated, some people have really fast reaction times and coordinate well. I sympathize a little bit for both sides but mostly for the casual players. Everyone plays to have fun. Most people have more fun playing against an evenly matched team. For the people that say "get good at the game" and they want to take out skill based matchmaking so they don't have to sweat every match. Those people need to get better at the game too because they're complaining cause the matches are too hard, or they are just lazy and have disorder where they have to feel they are the best (but are you really the best wanting easy wins?). It's a vicious cycle and ultimately casuals will loose in the end, it is in bungies track record. Ultimately a large part of the pvp community of Destiny has become very toxic like being good at a video game makes them a bad a$$, what do you expect? Ultimately this will just end up biting bungie in the long run. They've already got next to no engagement in trials, casuals will get tired of getting steamrolled in crucible in general and all of it will end up being like trials. I could be wrong but that's kind of the way I see it, that are going to lose more people in crucible. There are no guarantees that you're always going to be up against a team that's going to steamrole you, yes it's going to happen sometimes but there are no guarantees that it'll always happen. To you streamers that want easy matches, the people that watch you can tell if you're trying. The people that watch you can tell if you're getting an easy win, it's not that impressive. I watched some of the streamers literally talking to their channel and barely doing anything, the people they were playing with were carrying them or they were playing against teams that were just utterly terrible. I kind of figured it was a private match and the other team (his friends) were throwing.

SEASON OF THE STEAM ROLL!!!! well, all those sweaty streamers & try hards will be delighted.. back to bully boy pub stomp-a-romp 🙃

Boycott crucible this season. Let the sweats play with each other

Look at all those upvotes...oh wait...there are none.

SBMM - good for new players who can't fight against better players. No sense of progression because every game you'll be fighting equally skilled opponents. CBMM - good for players who want to get better at the game and always have consistently good connections. Sense of progression determined from climbing leaderboards. KD now becomes an accurate measurement of skill because it is compared to all players, not those in your skill bracket The only players who want SBMM aren't even good players to begin with, and don't want to take the time to get better at the game. Really says alot about you to just give up on something just because it's slightly difficult. Try learning to play an instrument or play a sport, or will you just get to bummed out cuz "i'll never be able to play the freebird solo"

Get good and maybe you'll have fun

My friends and myself are boycotting crucible this season. Let the sweats play each other.

The only way to get SBMM back is to have your voice heard. Make post on the forum asking for sbmm back. Like all the post that want it back. And stop playing crucible. And tell your friends and have them spread the word. Don't play crucible, Show Bungie how we feel. Boycott crucible tell your friends

Lol

[quote]Didn't you learn the last time, it doesn't work. We had this discussion before. I rather wait 10 minutes for a fun game where i actually get kills, then wait 10 seconds to be cannon fodder. So i just quit playing PVP again like most casual will do, playerbase will plummet again. Congrats Bungie for destroying my game again.[/quote] Not to be a dick but.... pre SBMM removal you were dropping 0.3KDs now post you’re at 0.7? I don’t get it...

Pro-SBMM people: "I'm shit at PvP, so I expect everyone to be forced to play under SBMM because Comp, Rumble, and IB are boring and not enough for me". Pro-CBMM people: "I'm fine with some gamemodes having SBMM but also want casual ones to have CBMM. Let's allow people to choose w/e mode they're in the mood to play at any given time". Granting the freedom to choose between SBMM/CBMM makes more sense than forcing SBMM down everyone's throat.