I agree that 8 is too many people. It's like mayhem rumble without the supers. Heavy spawns more than enough. If someone tries to gun you down with a primary you can just run away if you want. TTK should have been adjusted with movement increases. I'm not sure who at Bungie play tested this and thought 8 people was a good idea. Also you don't have to stop to pick up power ammo dropped from enemies. Hold x and run over it. Hmm.