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Modifié par CatMan :
7/21/2017 9:35:02 AM
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"HOW CAN YOU HATE D2 PVP YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT"
~ Every fanboy for the last few months
Well, I had a chance at trying it and I have to say.......[spoiler]my opinion of the 4v4 has not changed in the siltiest. Its fine that a large amount of you are good with it, but most of us aren't. No need for the salt because we all disagree. Not everyone likes E-sport style play.
This may sound strange to you....but people know what they like and dislike even if they are just able to see it sometimes.....wooooooooah. I knew I wouldn't like it and I now hate my once favorite game mode (control).[/spoiler]
[b]Cons:[/b]
[spoiler]
Small maps
Take two to kill one/TTK is way to long
Supers change very slow
Weapons system (I WILL NEVER GIVE THIS ONE UP)
Matches are way to short
Joining matches in progress where the team Im joining on is losing (Still?)
4V-blam!-ing4!
Only one person can grab power ammo/Losing power ammo
3 melee to KILL
You can see other players supers when its ready[/spoiler]
[b]Pros:[/b]
[spoiler]Honestly.... I cant say I see any pros to 4v4. Luke danced around that 6 man finish a raid and have to kick two in order to pvp question. That really bothered me.[/spoiler]
[b]FeedBack Bungie:[/b]
[spoiler]Health bar is the same size as the bars telling you how close you are to wining or losing? And they are to close together imo. Hope you can fix, but if not, not a big deal
When the super is changed that box is distracting make it more like it was in D1
(this one is for those who like this.......pvp) Make the matches longer and the supers change faster
Fix the damn TTK
Bring back a classic 6v6 playlist with Mayhem, Control, Mayhem control, Clash, and Free for all with fan fav revamped maps. Take everything people hated about those maps and nuke it.
When I do pick the game up I won't be pvp and I hope exotic quest don't require pvp. Let players choose pvp or pve In those quest.[/spoiler]
Edit: [quote]I'm fine with 4v4 staying, I just want the destiny classics back at some point even if it takes a year or 2. I'm not shitting on people who like it. Happy for them, but I want some sort of confirmation its a possibly from bungie.[/quote] if you like the PvP more (less, pun intended) power to you.
Edit: Why do people keep saying "CoD does this" or " halo does that".......THOSE GAMES ARE CONSISTENT(tmp), and this ain't that. Those devs use the same formula in every game and make some adjustments. Cod devs -blam!-ed up huuuuuuge over the last few, but they never changed the core elements that fans are use to/like and made the pvp work (not including weak ass bop3). In cod you get the same number of teammates, same weapon load out (somewhat), and some revamped maps.
Bungie is experimenting way tooooo much, and we are the lab rats. 4v4? small maps? The new weapons system?....They changed toooooo much and for what? [b]Really want to know.[/b] I'm [b]not[/b] saying cod or halo are better games, not shitting on bungie, not saying hate destiny 2 (hate the pvp tho). Just saying STICK TO WHAT WORKS FFS. And fanboys, if you are going to compare don't do it in the name of trying to justifying bad choices. You'll find a double edged sword every time.
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10 commentairesThe argument I see popping up now is: [quote]How can you judge the game but you're not max light yet? [/quote] I'm done- I no like what I see
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3 commentairesBefore you form an opinion: "Wait for the reveal..." "Wait for the beta..." "Wait for the full game..." Next it'll be "Wait for the first patch." We are not dealing with logic-driven people here.
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Don't forget hit detection and shoulder charge. I'm literally ramming my foot into someone's jaw, that should do more damage.
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CoD and Halo were ruined by the trash MLG community. I'll call them trash untill they stop whinging about everything except their favorite character and weapons. they want to be op and say get good. well i cant get good when they take away my abilities.
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1 commentaireModifié par Trill_0012 : 7/22/2017 3:08:33 AM[b]Just because you're not as good at the new Crucible doesn't mean it's bad.[/b] [spoiler][url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/6ooxvk/just_because_youre_not_as_good_at_the_new/]wtah[/url].[/spoiler] I for one never claimed to be good at any pvp let alone the new pvp. I'm an average pvp player in destiny and I like 6v6 because its not too heavy on the E-sport competitive play, I can go in and lose myself for hrs having fun. It just feels right. I dint know if anyone can understand that. According to this guys post If im not a good pvp player I don't know what the -blam!- I'm talking about when I say I dont like the new 4v4. NEWS FLASH, People know what they like. Its has nothing to do with adapting. I can get my ass kicked all day in destiny and still have fun. I say this all....the...freaking...time......[i]sigh[/i] [b]The biggest issues with destinies pvp was the lag and the balance.[/b] Now the biggest [b]issues[/b] will be [b]kicking friends to pvp(...-blam!- it kick me, I wont play), small maps, Lag (no matter what bungie does some people still have shitty internet and we will still be matched with players on the other side of the universe),and now PLAYERS QUITTING. [/b]Understand this...you can play your heart out and still suck and not everyone is going to make destiny 2 a job like they did with destiny. I -blam!-ing hate when people make excuse for other people.
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4v4 sucks.
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7 commentairesCan't see a single advantage to 4v4? Then you're just being stubborn, honestly
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2 commentairesEveryone is like, "this is just a small taste of the game" well, if you eat something and it tastes like crap, the rest of it is gonna taste like crap.
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1 commentaireI don't really mind the 4v4 (honestly the control map would be a nightmare because some geneus decided to have body-blocking return). I just really wish the time to kill was the same as D1. It would make it so that duals actually happened and ganging up didn't give an instant win.
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28 commentairesModifié par Kind of Mind : 7/20/2017 9:30:30 PMI hate it because shotguns are gone I hate it because shotguns, snipers, and fusions are now eliminated and categorized as rare ammo in the game I hate it because only one team mate picks up heavy ammo even if others are in proximity. This doesnt influence coherence, it means one person steals your heavy. I hate it because when you try to pick up heavy, if u get shot, it resets your attempt to pick up the heavy. I hate it because sidearms are useless and do no damage and are overpowered by other weapons I hate it because supers (only used arcstrider) are terrible and now trash. Theres no target lock or swing toward enemies and movement is slow and wasteful. Even when near an enemy, the super continues to do useless turn arounds that actually detracts from trying to kill someone. I hate it because invisibility is gone I hate it because guns now mimic a call of duty style of weapons and are less distinct and unique. I hate it because grenades are underpowered and dont do enough damage. I hate it because melees are underpowered. It takes 3 hits to kill someone when sometimes others get u with only 2. This is inconsistent and unfair. I hate it because hunters have a useless dodge ability in place of a way better innovative invention. I hate it because the gameplay feels raw and unpersonal. There is no team cohesion. The hype about certain implementations influencing team play was a gimmick. Especially for people wanting to hop in quick games and run solo I hate it because game rounds like control are not long enough and the score limits are not high enough. The impact of this is not being able to unleash a super even if u were top player, got most kills, did the most work etc... unacceptable. I hate it because character abilities are a minimal and have been enormously nerfed. Thats nasty! I hate it because games truly feel pointless now and not fun. I hate it because i spent $15 for this and the expansion I hate it because this is only the beta and has let me down so far. I hate it because the developers have killed the game with their wrong assertions and beliefs. One positive is that it can only get better from here. That was probably bungie's plan; make the game crappy only to reveal improvements and grow community support. Ha! Ive caught on to you Bungie! I know that when i think its going to get better, it always gets worse when it comes to your developing this game. I know you! Im dissapointed. Please make this game better. I had high hopes. A beta represents what a game is going to be like and this representation sux. This is my feedback, if u care about your game, fix it!
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3 commentairesWhat the -blam!- is the fascination with spoiler? It's -blam!-ing dumb can we all agree it's a stupid gimmick and stop using it? What the -blam!- "spoiler" were you helping me avoid seeing? Wasn't the point to read it? Do you think this has some -blam!-ing dramatic affect? Like: oh my god! Now that I opened this myself that paragraph is overwhelming powerful! I can't even begin to disagree with op when they employ a gimmick like that! IT'S AMAAAAZING!
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Pvp is more balanced, but for people who play this game for pve then the game feels broken, this game was completely changed for the cry babies in crucible
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4 commentaires6v6 is classic and I've always hated anything less than 12 total players. I get that some like it, but casuals like me enjoy getting lost among 12 people cause it's less competitive and more fun. I'm still on the fence about buying D2 for this fact alone.
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I saw someone refer to D2 as more "banana software," in that it "matures after purchase." Essentially, we'll be buying another several-year beta. No thanks.
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Only having 4x4 is cancer! We should have a choice but they can't due to lag
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4 commentairesDoes it really take 3 melees to kill?
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8 commentaires[quote]HOW CAN YOU HATE D2 PVP YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT[/quote] "Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it" -- Big Tom Callahan (Tommy Boy)
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And I thought D1 PvP was bad. D2 is on a whole new level of awful
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1 commentaireOut of curiosity, because i do not know, has any one verified that the raid will, in fact, be a six player activity? In the beta, when one of my friends is alone in orbit, it says fire team 1/4. Every one must realize at this point that destiny pvp has more than likely gone 4 player because of sony wanting it to display in 4k on a machine that lacks the power. And the destiny engine which obviously is not a new engine.
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2 commentairesModifié par zSwabee : 7/21/2017 7:06:28 AMA lot of this will probably change because everyone is complaining about it. Super recharge will probably get faster ability charge [i]might[/i] get faster, but only by a little bit. The TTK is only about 0,5 seconds slower, the difference of 1 or 2 shots. All in all, most of the people complaining about team shot and weak guns (not saying this is you) just need to learn how to play the game. I'm not saying that in a malicious way, it's just destiny 2 has kind of a learning curve.
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By considering the fact that I would not like bear poop smeared all my body. Same diference
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I agree we should have a choice between 4v4 or 6v6 game types. But the changes to PvP is a good one Destiny's PvP is a mess. Ability spamming, sticky grenades = free kills, shotties plus fast movement to close that gap, sinpers were almost dependent on aim assist hence players chosing the sinpers with the highest aim assist and aim assist perk, final round etc. Destiny became what can i use to have the most advantage over anyone stupid enough to not use [name advantage here]. Primary weapons is for your primary damage everything else adds to that else their is no point in primary weapons if you can just spam everything else especially in PvP.
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I kind of like it, but It just feels too much like its trying to be an E-sport, and I hate the time to kill.
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3 commentairesWhat I hate is the same problem of matching up people as full teams 4v3 3v4 bungee learn ducking math
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9 commentairesAgree 100%. If this were 2002, I would love the PvP. But come on, such small maps and small team sizes using peer-to-peer connections. Also, In 6 games I was only able to use my super ability in 1 out of 3 games. Might as well play 4v4 Call of Duty.
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4 commentaires[quote]Bring back a classic 6v6 playlist with Mayhem, Control, Mayhem control, Clash, and Free for all with fan fav revamped maps. Take everything people hated about those maps and nuke it.[/quote] Oh they will bring them back all right. They will use them as a carrot to make a profit. This is how cheap this company has become.
