Posts like this are good. People are going to hate on this due to the fact there nothing without shotguns.

Me again, your gonna learn pretty quick how much we all hate nerfs of any kind

Shotguns already decrease agiltiy, my tip: of some tryhard is in your lobby switch your loadout to counter him like a quick-charge-fusion and a handcannon or smth

Do you even aim??? Aiming would help...

Is this satire? Stop complaining.

xel_007 is right. Beta, and Day One player here. In the Vanilla game, ARs (as an entire weapon class, not one gun) were allowed to kill fast enough that you could stand your ground and kill shotgun rusher before he could close. If you were accurate enough to land headshots. But once ARs were nerfed (Feb 2015) anyone with a primary has been forced to backpedal in the face of shotgun warriors ever since. NO other shooter game I've every played allows this to go on. The game's primaries---as a whole----are laughably underpowered. Which is why shotgun warriors show them so little respect. If you're that frustrated with slide-shotgunning, then its probabaly because you refuse to accept what I've just said in the paragraphs above: THE GAME'S PRIMARY WEAPONS ARE SIMPLY TOO UNDERPOWERED TO ALLOW YOU TO STAND YOUR GROUND AND FIGHT OFF THAT SHOTGUN RUSH. So every time you try to...that shotgunner just sprints through your fire....tanks the damage while he closes to shotgun range...and then blows your head off. Over, and over, and over again. What you need to do---until such time as Bungie buffs the game's primaries back to something reasonable----is to learn how to fire WHILE preventing that shotgunner from close. The simplest way is to simply WALK BACKWARDS away from the rusher, while you fire. This will extend the time it takes for the shotgunner to close, and buy your own weapon more time to kill. If there isn't room to go backwards....then go VERTICAL. Jumping into the air at the right moment can frustrate a shotgun rush by creating enough vertical distance to get you out of the OHK range...and (again) either buy you time to kill, or time to escape. As you get more experienced, you can learn to combine the two...in order to really make yourself a hard target. YES...you shouldn't have to do this when some shotgunner decides to bum rush you from right dead square in the middle of your weapons optimal range? But go with what works, and learn to CREATE the space to fight you need.

Whats a shlidegun?

Git Gud Skrub

7500 LMAO!!

Petty copter has taken off. Oh no you brought the petty army. Now the petty police it's really hard to post something this petty

Use a shotgun, be shotgun warrior. try it out for yourself. and then think again if you want change anything. I played with shotgun most of y1 and y2. now as there are so many shotgun warriors i switched to sidearm/ fusion. it's hilarious how many players have just one thing in their heads: rush with shotgun. most of them die before they get even close. shotguns aren't a problem, learning how to to couter them is. you have to be good shotgunner to counter shotgun warrior without trade, and that can be frustrating. Try something else. [b]shotguns are fine[/b]

Totally disagree with you here. I'm a year one player and I come from both schools of snipping and shot gunning. Now with that being said I understand the frustration players have against shot guns and want them nerf, but shot guns aren't the problem. In my eyes the problem stems from two main issues: 1) primary are shit... (except for clever dragon and padilion you melt shotgun warriors and snipers). Now for the 2nd issue and stay with me one this one cause it's going to upset most of the player base. 2) player adaptability if you haven't figured how to counter shotgun warrior then you need to start asking yourself what you are doing wrong. (There's nothing funnier and honestly a free kill when a warrior just charges in). Now I feel if you take the risk of charging in with a shotty and make it to your target you should get rewarded with a one shot kill. Just like sniper in yr 1 and 2 you could literally sit there getting hit with gun fire and still pull off a head shot. Most of the ppl complaining about shotgun are old sniper that thought they were master snipers but ever since flinch got fixed ( yes I said fixed. There's no way in hell you should be pulling 2-3 sniper kills while getting gun fired on. )

Reduce the accuracy while in air and about 2 seconds after sliding, maybe that will work. And buff primaries aannnnd make exotics feel.... well exotic!

Every one was complaining about felwinter. But shotties now have the double of the range and a quarter of the dmg more then felwinter had. Before

No more nerfs!!

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