Sure, optional matchmaking would be cool. As long as there's forced game chat for anything that wouldn't usually have matchmaking.

Nightfalls... sure PoE.... sure Raids? Absolutely never!!! The raids will get nerfed/altered to accommodate these crucibabies who can't work together with randoms. Tryhard losers have ruined this game enough, if Bungie accomodates these children one more it will [b]REALLY[/b] piss off the PvE community. Although everyone seems quite angry already so....

I'm for raid matchmaking just so I can not have to see these post anymore when Im sitting on the toilet. Go ahead use that mythical matchmaking and join into a group of noobs trolls and afk'ers...have fun with that.

"Yay they added matchmaking" "Bungie what the hell, you paired me with noobs, these guys can't do the raid!!"

Challenge of elders 41 prision Nightfall [b]Should have matchmaking[/b] Raids Trials [b]Should [i]not[/i][/b] Wiping endlessly due to incompetent randoms is not fun. I've seen people rush thalnok this week in CoO (leaving the sword on the floor, shooting him non-stop wondering why they aren't doing damage), if they can't get past a simple patrol mini-boss (who's mechanics are a complete repeat of crotas end) there's no way you'd finish crota, and certainly not vog or kings fall. Picture wiping over and over again because someone didn't know how to swap by totems in kings fall, or doesn't even know how too...or you being the only one killing oracles in vog... How about the Warpriest mechanics? Who's grabbing golgoroths gaze (And if you are who's dropping the bubble and shooting)? How long would you sit at the jumping puzzle before you left? By deathsisters pray the random runner knows how, pray 3 others know which plate to step on first...or to stand inside the aura... Don't get me started on oryx. Even the first encounter with the relics, how much anxiety would you handle after being the only one to grab a relic and be set back again (assuming the team even makes it past 1...) How about vog? Templar, (imagine how many people would run right out of the containment)? How many kills the gorgons would have. Think gatekeepers are easy? Wait till the portal closes behind you because no one is on it! Or no one's watching the middle spire. Or they drop/die with relic since they don't know how to use it. Atheon who knows how to clense? You do? Assume you don't get teleported...can they kill oracles in time? Do they know how to clense? Even crota, you think you can solo but they all seem to enjoy seeing the oversoul spawn. Again and again. How come your the only one shooting at it? Wipe... Also 3 people die, you figure it's a wipe right? Off the map you go. Wrong the last two players are either afk or don't know why everyone died and are trying to revive teammates on hard mode...or insist on hiding thinking your coming back in 30 seconds on your own....15 mins later they send you a message calling you a scrub because you haven't pushed X to revive yourself yet... Then there's the problem with afk's, trolls, quitters, two players being in a party who seem to insist on staring at each other teabagging the ground the entire raid... Challenge of elders, poe and nightfall a single player can carry. But for raids and arguably trials one cannot. (Unless your running crota or your name is ramblinn)

This entire community is too dumb to know what optional means. Bungie and us. See, Loot Cave. Bitches bitching about other players not having to do the grinding they "had" to. I bitch about dumb shit that I realize is ridiculous and would mess up game spaces in retrospect "Yo, why isn't there a rocket-launcher sparrow?". Bungie's too dumb to know how to separate PvE from PvP, and great guns and builds have died as a result. Our ideas can be straight up horrible from "Wow, Thorn needs a buff" to, "get rid of Gjallarhorn, the bosses don't have enough health and it's boring to kill them fast!", and who can forget "LFG, VoG Hard, Must be 335 and have Sleeper, Spindle, or Gjally". Bungie refuses to have any in game grimoire or Raid LFG, let alone let you use all the different modifiers in the game for Strikes and Missions like Halo did. The Last Array with Rainbow Burn, Catapult, and Lightswitch? Uh oh. There's a Spire forming in my pants (was the Spire a dick joke first or a game element first? Hmmmm...). I have no idea who in this community got verbally abused by a pick n' mix (CRYYYING LIGHTNING... shoutout to Arctic Monkeys) as child, but you can actually let people do what they want. Wow. Oh my. HE DA DEVIL BOBBY BOUCHER, HE DA DEVIL. HE'S GONNA LET YOU HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO, AGHGHGH!!! The biggest thrills I get out of Destiny is making the game do something it should be able to do and adamantly doesn't want to. "No, you can't go through the doorway. There's a rock smaller than a mouse near you!" OHHHHHH. Honestly, the negative, entitled attitudes you see on this site and DTG are a pure result of elitism from how Bungie handles gear, and the players ability to acquire weapons and armor THEY PAID FOR without having to do bizarre things like go online through your computer to find players for endgame in a -blam!-ing AAA game. If you didn't want to breed entitlement, you'd actually sell Gjallarhorn through Xur way before it gets nerfed, because we know you're liars and that you control Xur's inventory, so people get to use the weapon substantially before it's gone because it proved the boss designs were boring. But, "Xur's inventory is not random, they just know what he's going to sell!" Lololololol. You think we're salty? Look at Bungie's utter PMS when Megaman proved they were liars. Who did the liars blame? Ha, Megaman. "We don't control Xur's inventory, we just encode it now with No Lands Beyonds so you don't know we control it since then you could actually know whether or not you wanted to grind Strange Coins for what he's selling on the weekend like you've been able to until now because it's totally random." Never forget these are the incompetent bastards who fired Marty, ran a smear campaign against him and blackmailed him with Music of the Spheres because he had correctly answered a tweet stating that the trailer for E3 with the changed music wasn't a Bungie trailer, because they hadn't put the music in, Activision had. Barely anyone saw the tweet, and they had the lack of spine to go after him for it. Because unlike the rest of Bungie, apparently Marty likes the tr7th. "Play nice" yourselves, Bungie hypocrites. (I have no knowledge of specific people in the company, except that Deej wears the most dapper suits. This isn't aimed at all the people who fought through the ego-BS that nearly destroyed this game to make it: thank you for making a great game that overcomes all the people trying to destroy it for money. This is geared towards the assholes that think they're better than the community when obviously they're full O' BLAM and just as flawed, and think people whining about a game on the internet are worse than them when they've fired people and possibly displaced families just to maintain lies about a video game. THAT'S PATHETIC. To all the people that made Bungie great despite god-like hubris in your face everyday, you did amazing, and you deserve sleep. Lots of sleep you would have gotten if whoever decided to -blam!- up the story hadn't. You probably didn't even make one great game, it sounds like you made two and had to throw one out because "...I DON'T EVEN HAVE TIME TO EXPLAIN WHY...")

LFG in the tower problem solved optional matchmaking for raid is cancer totem section wipes after wipes after wipes *facepalm level over 9000

Um, pretty sure they are already working on something like this.

Agree 100% its idiotic that it isnt ingame already (should have been at launch) But what about the elitists and their entitlement? (They should grow up)

If your too lazy to pull up a phone or open your consoles browser you have a problem my man.

The only problem with matchmaking is there is no vote to kick option. AFKers in strikes, are already making this a needed option. You imaging a raid where 3 people go afk and there is no vote to kick option ?

No matchmaking. In game lfg would be better fine tune who you want and needed instead of hoping for a good raid team.

Sure it's a good idea.... Till lvl 260s start using it for end game activities..... Or get put with a clueless guardian...