I'm going to state why I think Iron Banner is a complete waste of time. I'm very angry at this moment, but I am going to try to display my thoughts like a sane person, even though I shouted very loudly after what had happened happened.
I have been playing this laggy, Mida infested game mode since Tuesday. Upon reaching rank 5, all I get is a 310 ghost, and 315 gauntlets. I have a 317 ghost. I have 313 gauntlets. Is this all I deserve from going through absolute hell all week?
Iron banner is no breeze when playing solo. Having to play against teams of 6, laggers, quickscopers, conspiracy theory d blink shotgunners, and Mida multi-toolers, this is all that I get? I understand very well that this is an RNG game. But this is unacceptable.
To anyone who has reached rank 5, we all deserve something good, guaranteed. Everyone should get one weapon, and one piece of armor that is HIGHER than what they have on, (by a noticeable amount, 4-5 light levels higher then what you have equipped) or AT LEAST equal with good roles.
The raid has a challenge mode that guarantees at least one 320 piece of gear.
Why doesn't the crucible have this? The crucible is arguably much harder than a raid is. Raids are the same every single time. Every enemy is programmed to do the exact same things. You are fighting a computer with designed intelligence. And although the raid may lag sometimes, the crucible is just as laggy. In PvP, you're fighting real people, with real intelligence. Why do we get rewarded [i]less[/i] for considerably [i]harder[/i] challenges? Iron banner takes days of grinding for a chance at a 320 piece of gear. Challenge mode takes a few dozen minutes for a GUARANTEED piece of 320 gear.
Additionally, many of my friends have moved on to the Xbox One, and I cannot do the raid anymore. LFG is such a pain that I refuse to use it. I'm not playing with people from a different country just to lag and get kicked, or have some stuck up tight-ass boot me because he wants to control everything I do.
I can't afford a new Xbox One. Not everyone can just go out and buy a new console because other people are.
Edit: We're Trending... Please keep commenting your thoughts and opinions about the loot from iron banner.
Edit 2: http://youtu.be/nDtdJBolvlk
In this video MoreConsole talks about loot, and addresses some of my ideas. Is Iron Banner Worth It?
Edit 3: I don't have a trials/raid team. Please stop telling me to play those. If I could, I would.
Edit 4: Over 1000+ replies. Nice. Please keep commenting and sharing your iron banner experiences, especially if you want Bungie to improve the quality of their loot system.
[spoiler]And to those of you who comment negatively, just know you're only bumping my post and that I appreciate it! (:[/spoiler]
Edit 5: I've heard a few suggestions (excuse me, I don't remember the fellow guardians who came up with these ideas, but you'll know who you are) from a few of you, and to be frank these are some good ideas. One guardian said getting a guaranteed 320 across all three characters (only getting one 320 even if you've played on all three characters) should be implemented. I believe that end of match rewards should only be given to those who are on the top 3 of their team's leaderboards. Those who give the most effort get the most in return. This would encourage guardians to play the objective more often, and of course just play better overall, (capture the zones!) not just sit afk in a match to get to rank 5. Another guardian suggested implementing a "challenge" mode into the crucible as a weekly bounty/quest, similar to the raid's challenge mode. This should obviously not be a task that just anyone can complete, but at the same time it shouldn't be harder than the raid's challenge mode.
Any more ideas? These would all be excellent improvements to iron banner in my opinion, what are your thoughts?
Edit 6: A guardian just posted this link showing his experience fighting another laggy guardian. These kinds of things happened a LOT during Iron Banner.
Video: http://youtu.be/Jt3l0DRZiWU
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1 commentaireJust curious, did you play Iron Banner this weekend? :)
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1 commentaireWhy can't I get a ghost that's over 310?! Seen a dozen drop for other people (usually in the lower 3 spots). It seems that since I've been doing better, the loot sucks more. Only good thing is that my 3oC is paying off well (got a 310 thunderlord and probably a dozen different exotics).
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I grinded IB nonstop with three characters trying for a 320 ghost and failed. I was so bummed until I ran the Hard mode with my friends and scored a 320 ghost at totems. RNGesus answered my prayers.
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Modifié par CheeryNibbler : 1/7/2016 6:48:45 AMYou mean you cant afford an xbox one right now? Not even when it was black friday/cyber Monday? I'm surprised you can afford internet Oh, and just so you know. This while non guaranteed, rngsus drop system is designed to keep you playing for as long as possible. If your not max light, you will stay that way for awhile, almost a timewall. Enjoy
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1 commentairewe are always needing another member for raids, if you are interested please contact TrickishPython ( gamer tag ). We currently have, on a normal day, five of us and usually have to go for a random to fill in the sixth spot. We plan to start fresh on the Kings Fall raid on hard mode this weekend but its always subject to change. Thank you for your time Guardian. Xbox One
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Modifié par mazerial : 1/6/2016 5:20:17 PMTL/DR: 2 guardians to rank 5 on Xbone = no class items = rough grind. Also just not very rewarding drops. I did have some fun, but I largely agree with you. I got 5 guardians to level 5 (3 on PS4, 2 on Xbone...my third is still experiencing the level again...when I feel like it). My PS4 experience was much better than the Xbone. For one thing, this is my 'main' console, so those guardians have more options gear wise, but they also managed to all get the class items last time. So what I noticed: Class items were dropping much less frequently this time, with an apparent emphasis on Hunters getting the most. I saw a few butt towels, but I didn't see any arm bands drop this time. I'm speaking here about my characters and the others whose rewards I would see after a match. On Xbone, none (read as NONE!) of my guardians got a class item, and they both got to level 5, and I continued to play with them for awhile because I needed the marks from the weekly bounties. The contrast between having the class items and not was quite noticeable. Other drops were fairly minimal. The last IB actually felt rewarding, but not this time. I worry that they might have come to rely too much on 3 of coins for rewards? I don't think I've seen a natural drop of an exotic in IB or crucible since they were introduced. I think you should get decent rewards regardless. I thought there was a bug with the drops a couple IBs ago. Is it back? On Xbone (where my characters could have actually used almost any purple gear) the experience was actually much, much worse. The IB AR did drop twice, but that's about it. I don't think I got any other armor drops this time, and certainly none of the high level ghosts that were dropping last time (all my PS4 guardians ended up with at least one 310+ ghost drop last time). So I was also very ticked off, mainly about the dearth of class items, but the paucity of decent drops in general. The comparison between Xbox and PS4 was very noticeable, and given the amount of matches I had to play, I don't think you can just lay it at the feet of RNG (btw, I think we need new terms RNG implies Random. If you never get anything good or that you need, 'random' is the wrong word to describe it.) Lag was also much more noticeable this time, but I've kind of learned to just deal with it. P.S. Sorry if I've repeated anything that has been brought up before. I really don't have the time to read the whole thread. Edit: Forgot to add, on Xbone, I did get a couple of purple armor engrams drop. I really could have used them. But they both turned into relics that were of a lower level than what I already had equipped [insert raspberry sound here]. That was kind of a slap in the face. Not quite as bad as when all purples were really blues until confirmed, but in that same zip code.
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I don't know, it wasn't so hard to hit rank 5. I just played for about 2-3 hours on Monday, hit rank 5 within that time thanks to the tempered buff. The daily bounties give you almost a full rank of you have all the xp boost gear and tempered.
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Played all week; Got a 310ghost and a 314 rocket launcher Not at all what I was hoping for
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3 commentairesSeeing how difficult it is to get a 320 ghost from the raid. I decided to do iron banner just for that, cause I assume you have a better chance of getting a 320 ghost at rank 5. This is what I assumed from the previous iron banner. I do believe that when you get rank 5 in iron banner you should be guaranteed at least 1 320 and it should be upon your choosing, not RNG. That would make it more rewarding for everyone to continuing doing it.
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2 commentairesBeing 316-318 on all my characters there is a small window for getting higher drops. I do agree that we should be at least guaranteed (1) 320 piece per character. I mean if we have a chance every 4-5 minutes doing SRL then we should have better shots at it in Iron Banner. As for the lag. It was frustrating at times but overall I enjoyed it. I hit rank 5 on all 3 by Friday, got some decent guns and gear but once I hit Rank 5 it seemed like the drops dried up for me. I say let us continue to rank up past 5. With packages at 3,5,7,9,etc. With at least 1 guaranteed 320 piece per character in the rank 5 package. The use of certain weapons dont bother me. I get killed by all kinds. Alot use Mida, I do to. It's a great gun. I hate the nerf cry for it tho. It's definitely not overpowered imo. It's the perks that I love. Active radar and extra agility are why I use it.
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13 commentairesYour gonna play again
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I didn't have much lag at all. I saw a very varied use of weaponry. I enjoyed playing. So yeah, for me it's worth it.
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I agree completely. I suck at pvp's in general, I can't quick scope (I hard scope it's how I do) and I'm not quick enough to run, slide, and shotgun. So I learnt to play to my style, tactics control or rift are my kinda games there's an objective and I can use my super or grenades in a way that works for my style of play. Since then I've been doin good (17 kill streak and a few 3.0 k/d) but the rewards I get are nonexistent, i did 25 games in iron banner on Monday while I was at rank 5 and I only got 4 end game rewards. Two were iron banner gear and the other two were rare engrams. My luck is absolutely ridiculous but it shows that the rng is broken (I have a 1 in 6 chance to get something) The only way they can fix this is if the top 3 on each team gets a boost to the % of their chance to get something. Same as normal missions, the player who does the most work should have a better chance for good rewards. I've solo'd a nightfall or two and got nothing, my luck is terrible but still I would like to have some kind of reward for my effort.
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IRON BANNER SUKS WINKY,....................................... wait the whole game does.
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3 commentairesI have been summoned
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3 commentairesPeople do realize that these IB packages weren't a thing until recently right? As soon as they were introduced people were already bitching about their extra rewards because it wasn't what they wanted. Basically what I read was, "I sucked at ib so I deserve better rewards." Lol, entitled douche.
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2 commentairesHobit1994...
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1 commentaireSorry man...I hope you don't really leave. I love the Destiny community. I must have gotten lucky. I got 319 Helmet for Hunter, 320 Gauntlets for Titan, and 320 Leg Armor for Warlock.
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2 commentairesSee you next IB!
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Yep I agree, 310 ghost and a 311 heavy maching gun at rank 5. Nothing but bullshit. Didn't even bother with my Hunter and Titan even trying. Just proves these Geek Squad rejects still can't figure their shit out.
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I absolutely -blam!-ing agree. I busted my ass to get all 3 to rank 5 and what do I get? I lead my team and watch the lowest score player receive a 320 Ghost. Wtf? That's ridiculous. They should guarantee in trials and in Iron Banner 320 only gear drop. Make it rare, I don't care if it's 1 out of 50 games for a drop at least make it worth it. Not to mention they say RNG drops based on light level. Well awesome! Because all I seem to get are 290 and below gear every flipping time and I'm above 300. Why not drop some 315+ gear "Iron Lords". It's a damn joke. The rewards system in the Crucible is a joke. Wait, I stand corrected... The rewards system in Destiny is a joke.
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Though I completely understand where you are coming from I personally still play for the friends I've met and good times no longer for the loot.
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1 commentaireCan people join my new clan YouTube clan soon so join while u can
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I agree with everything you said. A lot of that has to do with why I have quit the game all together. I finally asked myself over a week ago "Why do I continue to play a game, that for the most part, does nothing but piss me off?" That kind of opened my eyes and I haven't picked it up since lol.
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8 commentairesWell, I just ground my way to rank 5 last night. First time too, I skipped the last IB because I don't like PvP. It was better than I expected. I went through the whole thing solo with a Dealbreaker and a Havoc Pigeon. Didn't see too many MIDAs or any other weapon, even hardscope camping was at reasonable levels (except maybe on Pantheon). Some people walked through my punches and grenades, probably due to light level difference but otherwise I didn't really notice it. I'm happy with the 310 Artifact, 310 Ghost and 319 Chest piece I got from the rank packages. Random drops were mostly useless, though getting an IB ship was kinda nice. Nothing above 300, and mostly just coins/motes, junk blues or plain old NOTHING. Now the question is, should I play a few more games at Rank 5 tonight with my main, or grab my alt and try fast ranking to 3? Does it make a difference for the post game drops? I sure wouldn't mind a few more ghosts.