I understand that RNG is a factor when it comes to dropping loot in Destiny. As the previous raids have been, its expected where you may only earn materials. I have no problem with that system at all since it happened rarely and at the time you needed them to reach the max level at the time. The problem that I seen a lot of people have is the issue with how moldering shards have been working. The new raid has no materials that you can only access in the raid (which is nice) but replaced with moldering shards. If you read the description for moldering shards its sounds like a good function: "Extra rewards will be granted when defeating Oryx in the King's Fall Raid with at least 20 of these". That sounded nice right? Well may players (including myself) have an issue where you have at least 20 moldering shards and you beat Oryx. Time for the loots and what is this? You receive only 1 or 2 moldering shards (only or in some cases you get some wormspore with it but that's easy to obtain with raid ghost). This is really annoying due to the these facts: 1. The moldering shards are only useful if you beat Oryx 2. You beat him and lose 20 moldering shards to only gain 1 or 2 new moldering shards 3. You may have only received moldering shards through the entire raid and #2 happens 4. You are suppose to get rewarded for defeating Oryx no matter if you have 20 moldering shards or not. The moldering shard description says "extra rewards will be granted" so if you beat him you should get REWARDS. So when you receive the 2 shards you earn 1 from just the fact of beating him and 1 is from using 20 moldering shards. If you receive only 1 than you got gibed. 5. You don't get extra rewards I don't expect a change where you will receive a guaranteed raid piece but change it where you actually will receive REWARDS and more useful things. I think a good option is to have it at least give some kind of combination of nodes of light, strange coins, materials, armor material, weapon parts, and/or ammo synthesis. Please change this, and don't make players grind a raid to collect 20 items for extra rewards just to loose 20 of them for 2 new ones. I know tons of players that have hated playing over an hour in the raid to receive nothing and hope to actually gets something out of it just to get slapped in the face and lose the 20 items they worked on collecting. Many people I know have walked away from Destiny where some are done until changes are made and some have walked away for good. I am talking about year one players that stuck it out . I have recently started to play cross platform due to people I know deciding to play on a platform I didn't play on. We all started new or for the first time together and got the gear for the raid. The cross platform players (including myself) have stopped playing on one platform and are debating to stop playing in general.