When warlocks are using the storm super they can take a direct hit up close with a hammer and live. So we should nerf them too ?

I don't hate a character in a game Just the odd moron here and there who play with them

Not my post, but you people need facts ;ere are some numbers for you all courtesy of DTR's community statistics Edit: I find it hilarious that people are attacking my personally for these stats. If any of you had half a brain and bothered to read you would realize these are NOT my stats. I also didn't realize this forum suddenly became somewhere that requires perfect statistical presentation. Super kills (PVP) Hunter Nightstalker 54,549,041 (4.90%) Titan Sunbreaker 30,933,744 (2.78%) Warlock Stormcaller 28,664,865 (2.58%) Grenade kills (PVP) Hunter Nightstalker 31,135,311 (4.11%) Warlock Stormcaller 26,611,954 (3.51%) Titan Sunbreaker 16,019,668 (2.11%) Melee kills (PVP) Warlock Stormcaller 38,775,697 (3.16%) Hunter Nightstalker 32,853,317 (2.68%) Titan Sunbreaker 29,285,716 (2.39%) Sooooooo. You were saying how sunbreakers get sooooooooo many kills with their overpowered hammers yet they still have less super kill then the hunter SUPPORT class. Edit 1. Class breakdown 33.5% warlock with 3% being stormcaller 32.3% titan with 3% being sunbreaker 34.2% hunter with 4% being nightstalker These are updated every 15 minutes by destiny tracker. I didn't collect these. The low percentage is because the subclass percentage is based upon what percentage of tracked games they have been in. Edit 2: actual numbers for classes for you Warlock 1,854,319 Titan 1,786,529 Hunter 1,890,494 source: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population Edit 3: here are the stats for all subclasses. These have been updated so the numbers should be different from the ones above Super kills (PVP) Hunter Bladedancer 201,044,918 (18.06%) Hunter Gunslinger 199,808,670 (17.95%) Titan Striker 186,291,620 (16.73%) Warlock Sunsinger 152,393,823 (13.69%) Warlock Voidwalker 131,789,812 (11.84%) Titan Defender 124,945,236 (11.22%) Hunter Nightstalker 55,925,202 (5.02%) Titan Sunbreaker 31,783,917 (2.85%) Warlock Stormcaller 29,448,846 (2.64%) Grenades: Warlock Sunsinger 174,401,439 (22.98%) Hunter Bladedancer 121,434,967 (16.00%) Hunter Gunslinger 114,520,912 (15.09%) Warlock Voidwalker 108,105,902 (14.24%) Titan Striker 94,212,758 (12.41%) Titan Defender 70,645,856 (9.31%) Hunter Nightstalker 31,920,719 (4.21%) Warlock Stormcaller 27,326,515 (3.60%) Titan Sunbreaker 16,443,142 (2.17%) Melee: Warlock Sunsinger 284,839,168 (23.19%) Titan Striker 203,237,949 (16.55%) Warlock Voidwalker 177,393,092 (14.44%) Hunter Bladedancer 170,332,624 (13.87%) Titan Defender 153,350,640 (12.49%) Hunter Gunslinger 135,263,513 (11.01%) Warlock Stormcaller 39,855,529 (3.25%) Hunter Nightstalker 33,721,785 (2.75%) Titan Sunbreaker 30,104,721 (2.45%) Edit: [quote]Okay, it seems there's way to many people sticking to the argument, There are more Hunters than Warlocks/Titans therefore they're are going to have more kills. If you agree, then this is for you. These stats were derived from a sizable portion of the population using the most recent statistic. 5.54 million games played as a specific subclass total. Hunter 1,894,406 Warlock 1,858,093 Titan 1,790,357 4% of Titans' and Warlocks' tracked games were played as Sunbreakers and Stormcallers. 5% of the Hunters' tracked games were played as Nightstalkers. Those of you with even a little bit of background in math already start to see a problem here ;) We can conclude that: 92524 games were played as a Nightstalker 75619 games were played as a Stormcaller 71461 games were played as a Sunbreaker And now to put everything on an equal playing field. Super Kills Avg per: Nightstalker - 619 Sunbreaker - 474 Stormcaller - 419 Melee Kills Avg per: Stormcaller - 566 Sunbreaker - 448 Nightstalker - 375 Grenade Kill Avg per: Stormcaller - 387 Nightstalker - 354 Sunbreaker - 245 Total Kills Avg per: Stormcaller - 1372 Nightstalker - 1348 Sunbreaker - 1167 Hmm, would you look a that. Seems like it wouldn't matter if there was an equal amount of Hunters, Warlocks and Titans. Hunters and Warlocks would be neck and neck yet Titans would still come in dead last. I wonder how such an OP subclass ends up with the least amount of kill

People don't realize what nerfing does. Yeah sure suddenly you will get a greater chance to kill a Titan using a super, but now how's that affect the pve? Which is the main thing about destiny. Not pvp. Every single nerf had made the pve even worse because of pvp complainers. Year one was a weekly retry of hell for updates and nerfs. Everyone on the map can hear when the hammer of sol is activated. It's very loud, every time time I hear it I activate mine cause I know shit just got real, there's a chance to counter or run. Counter is hard, very hard. Unfair hard, I know. Especially if they have the over shield while standing in a sun spot. It counters every single super except stalker. Which counters the games. Lol No nerf should happen though, Titans are meant to be the strongest. It's the entire idea of destiny. Unstoppable, the armor of the human race. The first and last wall blocking extinction. Leave it at that. You should all be use to it, Titans have always been difficult to counter when using a super. If you're year two then in my own opinion you don't deserve to complain. You have no idea what's gone on, no idea the crap beta and day ones had to go through to shape the game to what it is now.

I agree

Butthurt. Buttsore. Git rekt

Butthurt hunter

At least you admitted it

No because You can kill a sunbreaker using sunbreaker in the super and you only get the super once or twice every match and you get 5 or more hammers 5 kills can't win a match when the problem is that people don't understand it's a fricken SUPER

Golden gunner took me out with one shot while I was running around with HoS, and I got shut down quite a lot by night stalkers.........they're tough to take down but there are ways to do it, about the same difficulty as trying to take down a blade dancer or gunslinger (if you're in his sights).

Or just make gg stronger so it one shots titans in their super. the sniper thing I don't mind because a super should cancel out another super not a regular gun

The time it takes my hammer to leave my hand and hit your extremely fast, nimble little frame, you can fire 2 rounds into my giant rocklike body. In the part of the game that justifies PvP, which is PvE, the reason we "train against each other in the crucible, Titans are slow and have much more armor than the other classes. In PvP, you maintain your speed and have equal armor to Titans, we don't get to match your agility. It makes sense that we should have armor boosting abilities because Hunters and Warlocks gain equal armor and maintain speed, Titans lose our natural armor. We have to make a sacrifice in order to compete in PvP. Why should we be required to make another sacrifice? Nobody asks for things to be nerfed in PvE. All the nerf demands stem from PvP. We have to adjust to being equal armor and slow. You can adjust to our supers. You still have wicked range and GG velocity. Kill a titan with 2 shots and save your team mates or cry for a nerf and break titans again. I main a titan and have shut down plenty of Sunbreakers. I outmaneuver them while spraying them down. Remember, there is a trade off to everything. What we have is all we got. You have abilities that allow you to evade as well. No nerfs are needed. None! I dont ask for blink to be nerfed or shotgun melee or shotgun sliding. I get one shot all the time by snipers when not in super. If I break your kill streak, start a new one!!! You requesting a nerf means that the game has changed and now it is challenging you. Just learn to deal with it. I deal with plenty of bs in game but I don't want a nerf. Can't we all agree to disagree?! Train to fight, fight to winGuardians!

Dude I main a hunter and sunbreakers aren't that bad, most of the time you can one shot them. But also think about how op gunslinger and blade dancer are

Don't worry. You are ALL butthurt hunters. For one reason or another one of you huntards are always complaining about SOMETHING. It's not just you bud. It's all of ya.

I just golden gunned a hammer bro and he died. Not quite sure if he was hurt but he died. He also came at me later but I had the range on him with my mida and a throwing knife. He died. It's not op.

No, that super is the only GOOD super Titans have

I think it should be tweaked. But not the armor. I mean if we have the same armor as the other classes why the hell did I even pick titan? The armor isn't even that much you just have to body shot them one more time to finish them off. Or if it's really that big of a deal to you then use black spindle, that sniper can one shot hammer of sol.

People are still whining about this...

So you want out SUPER to be Nerfed so YOUR Super can kill it that is what you mean