It kinda does tho. The game is played for it's rewards. You know how many people stopped playing once atheon was getting cheesed? Same sht here. People will stop playing because of the lack of motivation. Pretty simple to understand that.

Why would someone else getting something stop you from playing? So because the kid down the street got a bike for Christmas you plan on just throwing yours away? Or did you only work to get your bike because no one else had it? If that is the case, those people would have left regardless. It's a completion based rewards system. So long as you complete the activity you get the rewards. Items are not tied to skill or anything you can really brag about, so these people are already on uneven ground to get their ego boost as it is.

Just because the game does not apply a justification of how a player "deserves" gear doesn't mean players can't arbitrarily make their own definition.

They can. It's when they believe that their justification holds weight that you have problems. Bungie implemented the completion reward system. A system that doesn't care about anything but finishing an activity. So cheeses, people who get carried, anyone is rewarded for their time. Why single out just one? The game doesn't.

I don't think the OP is taking the right direction with his argument. The Crota glitch is basically the same as pushing off atheon, which bungie fixed. The difference is that the Crota dlc glitch is harder to fix since it involves people disconnecting their consoles at home. If the Crota glitch can't be fixed like the pushing off atheon exploit, then I think bungie will start resorting to bans.

Even then, there are at least 2 more Crota cheeses that don't require screwing with your network. The network DC is popular because it negates all risk from Crota. The other two still carry some risk. People will just switch to those. They patch those, people will just be carried. Can't patch people being carried because the base mechanic of rewards is completion. This entire form of logic is flawed in the fact that it can't be overcome with the game as it is. Saying that means to fix it would require an overhaul you more than likely won't see until a continuation title, if at that. Removing completion base creates more problems than it solves. People bitch about RNG as it is. Could you imagine if you had to come in first in an activity to even start to roll legendary or Exotic items? You get a reward for being present when an activity is completed. You can do nothing, do everything, do it one way or the other. So long as the game checks off completion you get a roll at the loot pool. In PvP sometimes that roll fetches you a big fat nothing. Sometimes something good. Same goes for the raid. Sometimes you get mats, sometimes you get something better. Doesn't matter how well you did, or even if you are present for the whole activity. So long as you are there at the end. I can't count how many times I've been tossed into a strike right after the boss dies. I still get the rewards, hell I even get a completion without a death. What did I contribute? I was present.

I think you are missing the point. I don't really care about glitches other than the dc Crota glitch. Any glitch that bungie wants to fix they can fix and then who cares? The problem is solved. The dc Crota glitch however, may not be fixable via programming, in which case bungie will have to resort to bans to try and solve the problem. You can glitch all you want, you just have to be ready to accept any consequences the game developers throw at you.

Maybe in this case, though if you talk to a majority of the louder forum population they believe any 'cheesing' is the end of the world. I don't personally care how someone get's something. I'll have to go about getting it myself in the end. The OP that started this whole thread seems to believe that very logic.

I think that if bungie banned anyone who cheesed then they would go out of business. That being said, the Crota knee dc glitch seems less like a cheese and more like a breach of terms of service to me. I'm not the kind of person who cares if other people get loot, I'm just looking at the facts as they relate to the terms of service.

Perhaps, but then they would have to invest time in figuring out who is actively cheesing and who isn't the victim of something out of their control. The glitch was originally discovered (and ironically at that) due to someone getting network errored out of the raid. Bungies own network problems led to the discovery of a glitch in the raid. So how do you weed those who maybe had a power outage, bad internet, maybe even just had to go, from those who do it for personal gain? If I got booted out of a raid at the last boss, I know I would try to reconnect.. So you can't use that as a sign. If you attempt to monitor dash boarding and reloading, what's to stop them from just turning off their console and starting it back up? Crota is down for the count, the team can wait a few extra minutes. I'm interested to see how they handle it. Though even when they do, there are 2 other Crota cheeses. This one just negates any threat he posses, the other two still have some risk.

They have several different error codes that they have invented in order to keep track of different disconnect issues. I don't think it would be that hard to make a new path in order to track who is disconnecting. Also, these people would be receiving loot from Crota shortly after their disconnect, which would be another dead giveaway, and they have been tracking that info since the beginning.

Also replying to the edit about IB: IB is temporary and rewards are again (shocker, right?) Completion based. At most someone being a higher level than you just means more grind time. Though if Cheesers are lacking in skill like everyone claims, they shouldn't affect you right? Not to mention, are you going to rage war on everyone who deletes a character and levels a new one to run the raid multiple times in a week? What about people who have 2-3 of a single class? Are you going to flame down upon them because they had 3 chances every week to get that class to 32 and you only had one? What about people who had more time than you to play? Should you ban the guy who didn't have to miss the raid this week because of the Holidays?

This. Super on point. Also having lvl 32 gear has a small impact compared to infinite rockets in IB. Besides, barely anybody is 32 anyways so it will still be a lvl 31 playing field. Which anybody can hit. There is no real advantage to cheesing except that it's easier and faster. Given a long enough timeline(2-3 days), people would complete the raid and get rewards anyways. It literally has no effect on you.