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Edited by TTv-WAR6Actual:
11/26/2014 3:57:28 AM
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Quick question for my Striker Titans
If they were to nerf the shoulder charge so that it no longer one hit kills, would it bother you? I pretty much only play a Titan and I would be ok with this. It would just mean that said Titan would have to get good with doing the knee to the storm fist which would be a much more respectable kill anyway as in less people would get as upset, no one likes to get one shotted. I think its a little difficult to knee in place of the shoulder charge because in a lot of cases (and we all know this is true) the shoulder charge is kind of a panic button and the knee is not. At least in my opinion. So what do you guys think? Would you titans hate it if the shoulder/knee was no longer a one hit kill? Again, i would be against this change if it were to come.
Edit: Also, i'm talking about PvP, not PvE, Sorry, i should have stated that from the jump. Also, when i say panic button, i mean when you are already running (and charged) and melee the second you see someone because it kind of tracks.
Edit 2: This is also just a question, not a suggestion. I'm just curious what you guys and gals think about it and would think about it if it didn't one shot in PvP, that is all.
Edit 3: I've seen this before, does anyone know why this topic is like whited out?
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1 ReplyThis is an interesting post. Titans are, as SubZero007 said, a melee-oriented class. Our punches can only go so far, though. Hunters have their throwing knives (curse the amount of times I've taken one of these to the face!), Warlocks have their badass patty cake melee that has more range than Titan punches, at least in my experience. Honestly? I think all the classes are perfectly balanced as they are. They all play and feel differently, and every one of them has just that oneeee thing that people LOVE to complain about as being OP... just try and enjoy yourself in PVP, use your class to the best of your abilities. The shoulder charge can only get you so far, anyway!
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10 RepliesI don't even main a titan, but I think you guys deserve the one-hit kick. You are a melee-oriented class, after all.
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I would be disappointed if it was no longer a OHK. That would defeat the purpose of it entirely
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4 RepliesI used to hate it. I have a plan c now.
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I would not care at all. I dont use shoulder charge at all. I absolutely hate when I get killed by it. Once in PvP, a titan was sprinting at me and I expected either a shotgun or shoulder charge so I boosted into the air and he used shoulder charge and he literally vertically shoulder charged and killed me. It was like a jump/shoulder charge mix.
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I've never been entirely convinced that running around with a narrowed field of view was a great tactic for destiny but I only mess around and play control so what the best PVP tactics are I certainly wouldn't know :/
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Yeah then we wouldn't have anything op.
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Well if you miss then you will probably die tbh since the animation leaves you exposed for at least a second. So I think it's kool how it is =)
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Why even make the topic, maybe the more Bungie reads these and maybe they take away our sweet perk...
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Its pretty cheap, but then everything in pvp is and you nerf it why would anyone bother with it
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I would have a problem with it, unless they shortened the animation. Currently if you miss with shoulder charge you die, changing it do it doesn't get a one hit would make shoulder charge hard to use. I understand that the one hit kill is annoying but nerfing it would make it useless. If the both nerfed it and shortened the animation then it would be usable, however with the current animation length anyone who uses it would be murdered most every time.
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What would be the point of it than? Normal melee is 2 hit,why the hell would I even use that charge if it took two hits as well?
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7 RepliesIt wasn't a one hit in the iron banner for any level above me and it was extremely frustrating.
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What they need to do is make it so you can actually see when shoulder charge is available! The screen animation drives me nuts.
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If they nerf it in pvp, they would be right to do so. I get alot of kills with it, though I have literally no skill in pvp. An alternative: buff an ability for the hunter and warlock like the shoulder charge?
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11 RepliesI wouldn´t hate it- but it would render us the worst subclass in PVP. Think about it. Our melees are easily the worst in the game (SC aside). Our grenades are mediocre at best, and although they are generally not as bad as the Hunter´s, we don´t have a "tracking" grenade, and the only 1-hit kill grenade that Titans have are owned by the Defenders (Magnetic grenades- gotta love´em). The Supers, while powerful, are extremely situational. The short distance leaves almost no planning for them, and while Fist of Havoc is as powerful as Nova Bomb, we have to run into our enemies to use it, so we lack the safe distance that ´Locks have. It´s an open invitation to shoot at us. Kinda like Bladedancers, but they have increased mobility speed and a free damage reduction, whereas we have to invest points in either Juggernaut or Relentless. Both prevent us from using Shoulder Charge. So our safest approach to Fist of Havoc is running from a corner. Considering all that, Shoulder Charge is pretty much the only ace in the sleeve for a Titan. So I wouldn´t feel mad if they take it away, but it would be a damn shame. Plus, it´s already almost useless in PVE, so if suddenly I´m unable to even kill a Vandal with it...
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Edited by VIII XI KESI: 11/27/2014 7:20:13 PMI'm a main titan I have 2 lvl 30 Titans and waiting to make a third one (it's raid armor is waiting in my vault) after I get a hunter subclass achievement I plan to do that 3rd titan. An I say hell no we don't deserve a one hit melee. It's for the weak Titans that run around with a shot gun and need a melee kill.(yes shots fired at my weak brethren and sister Titans). It shouldn't even be their on our skill tree they should just add a buff so when can have 100% armor. An people that don't have a titan or to people who have a Titan and don't use them as your main character don't have a say on this forum.
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I haven't even started that class yet because the motivation to start at 1 again is ugggghhhh. I want the kick though
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After IB, I would say it needs buffing not nerfing lol, It was 50/50 that I would kill someone my own level and I stood no chance against someone 1-2 levels higher, It takes a while to charge up, you're half blind when using it and if you try it on anyone good you will just get shotgunned in the face before it comes off. The class is called 'Striker' so it definitely needs to have powerful melee abilities like the shoulder charge.
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1 ReplyYeah in Iron Banner my shoulder charge wasn't a one hit! Barely tho.,
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5 RepliesYes it would actually. Because clearly you have never played a Striker with Shoulder Charge or you'd know it takes serious work to pull off properly. In PvE it doesn't activate when you need it because the enemies always seem to get too close. It also doesn't seem to OHK. In PvP it's harder to aim and tends to run out before you reach the target. Also the Target can and will kill you mid charge. I'm dead serious about the PvE no OHK. Unless it was on the level of unshielded Shank, I can never get a OHK kill out of it.
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Yes, hunter's always blink on me and I drop faster than a fly on a fat guy's Big Mac
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4 RepliesHey guys Listen You know what would be a great idea? Let's take the Shoulder Charge Yeah Yeah let's take that, and make it a 2 hit That Striker description about fists being better than guns? No don't worry about that Go read the Grimoire Yeah, the stupid cards It says in there that the Ward of Dawn is impregnable But who cares? We made it so you can destroy it, and only an exotic helmet can make it slightly better So let's do it It's a great idea Trust me
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1 ReplyShoulder charge makes up for no teleportation jumps. Also entirely blockable with shotgun or fusion.
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1 ReplyThe shoulder charge is really the only thing that makes the striker titan class besides the FoH. If they nerf that then im going to make my main the hunter. Also I've always said if you dont see someone making a beeline for you then you were gonna die anyways. Or if he hits you as you turn the corner then you didn't prepare.
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1 ReplyYou can shoulder charge/melee combo then, already you can go from shoulder charge to melee seamlessly. It would still be a ohk.
