Most of u complaining A) are just not good at FPS shooters online or B) Not use to PvP, Destiny brings a new element to FPSs considering its an MMO meaning u have gear and classes. The crucible is pretty fairly balanced in my opinion. In my experience with WoW which has like 12 different classes and each class has 3 talent trees. Everyone complained about everything being overpowered and as the game constantly was changing different classes had the upperhand at different points. Except destiny has a counter to classes and gear considerings its still an fps so u have to have skill to kill someone aka aim for the head. U can shoot someone in the chest all day long but if their shooting back at ur head u will lose no matter what everytime. The supers are all pretty balanced they have their pros and cons but i already explained that in another post so if u want feel free to go read that. And to whoever said tanks shouldnt be in PvP that its not traditional you are completely wrong In a competitive atmosphere tanks are a great asset to a strategical team. Every class in WoW that had a tanking spec had a PvP tanking spec that worked very well in combat.