Bungie PVP recommended connection specs state, at times, will require 1MB of upload to function correctly. A lot of people in Australia, where I am, don't get a 1MB upload, as infrastructure is still quite primitive here, although things are changing slowly. The result, at times, where more than my 6-700k upload is required, feels like you can't damage anyone, or you do very little damage to other players. Xbox live specifies 500k upload is sufficient for multiplayer games & all other popular multi-player games employ dedicated servers, either partially or completely, to address the potential short fall so that it doesn't impact players. I don't know how Bungie got server-less Peer to Peer PVP past Microsoft specs with the 1mb upload? What I do know is that all the decent PVP players that I know personally, all have more than 1MB upload at their disposal. I suspect, at times, PVP requires even more than the 1MB upload specified by Bungie & typically a player with NBN, cable, even 4G, tend to do a lot better in PVP. In contrast, sub 1mb upload players frequently struggle in Destiny PVP & report better results in other popular multi-player games. I personally have over 6k hrs in Destiny, almost Max Grimoire, over 500 raid completions & even some trips to the lighthouse. I put up with the frequent overwhelming defeats & horrible stats in crucible because I enjoy the games so much in other ways. I really hope Destiny 2 has some form of dedicated server support for the Crucible, & they drop the peer to peer server-less multi-player model. Having said all this, we're expecting Fibre to be installed in our area soon so I probably won't care so much what Destiny does with PVP thereafter as I will have bandwidth to spare & a much improved ping : )