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11/4/2013 7:37:12 AM
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I think I finally understand why I hate 343i's treatment of Halsey

I apologize if this isn't strictly GAMING, but it does revolve around the story and themes of a gaming franchise, so I hope you'll forgive me. While I don't consider myself a HUGE part of #Gaming here on B.net, a few of you know my extreme distaste for the way the character of Dr. Halsey in the Halo lore has been treated in recent Halo media. Between Karen Traviss' moral soapboxing in Glasslands and Thursday War disguised as stories in the Halo universe, Brian Reed's "Halsey's a monster and I cut her arm off for ambiguity's sake" statements in one of the Halo Bulletins and other...hamfisted portrayals and interpretations have really taken a toll on my interest in the franchise. 343 Industries certainly know my disdain, bs angel herself responded to a message I sent her outlying my concern and I even got a response on Twitter from @HaloWaypoint. And yet while I've been assured by 343 Industries that they don't hate Halsey, Brian Reed's statements making such a claim a bit hard to believe, I can't let it go. Some other fans have either that I don't like this because I'm a Halsey fanboy who can't accept change. Perhaps this is the case, but after thinking about it, I think the real reason I hate what is going on with Halsey is that Halo was truly my entry point into the world of science-fiction and thus actual science. Now while I am at college studying to become a history teacher, I do have an interest in science, particularly that of the cosmos. In fact I am reading Carl Sagan's Cosmos right now! My attitude towards all of this can be summed up with this Halsey quote: [quote]Life is too short. I will never learn all that exists in our own tiny galaxy, let alone the rest of the universe. And I so desperately want to know everything.[/quote] I look up into the night sky and see the heavens before me and I yearn to learn about it all. Science-fiction, thus far, has been my bridge. When I read the works of Asimov and Clarke, I feel awestruck by the scale of the universe. Halo got me there and it was through the eyes and ideas of Dr. Halsey that guided me. Even though she is a fictional character, I do consider Dr. Halsey a kinda of role model. True, she has had her hand in nasty stuff, the Spartan-II Program a real red flag. Yet, as 343i and Traviss would have me believe, she didn't do it for the perverse thrills that [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] scientists like Josef Mengele had. Humanity was on the verge of tearing itself apart and extraterrestrial life was going to finish the job. She made tough choices and dedicated her work to preserving humanity and in the end, she did. In a way, I associate Halsey with my intelligence and seeing the character beaten, mutilated, proverbially spat upon and just plain handled badly hurts me. I know that sounds sad, but that is how I feel about it. Given how Halsey essentially guided me towards my interest in science, history and the pursuit of knowledge, I can't help but take it personally when crap happens. Hopefully something better happens with this character because as I said above, the more seemingly pointless crap that keeps happening to her makes me lose interest in a franchise I love. I sure don't want that and I'm sure plenty of other people, for one reason or another, feel the same way. Thanks for reading.

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  • The way I see it the UNSC (ONI) don't understand Halsey's true purpose. [spoiler]They do not know she was created by the Librarian, so the librarian could put her plan into practice, kidnapping John and creating Cortana. Cortana to guide John to his destiny as he has Forerunner DNA and may actually be a Forerunner. Halsey is just a scapegoat and a plot line to bring Jul'mdama and Agent Long into the picture. I think Long will seek out the Arbiter to learn how to either stop or assist John. Who knows, Lasky could have reprogrammed (genetically) Long to save the Chief from the UNSC rather than kill him or capture him as they wanted. UNSC may know more about Chief than we thought. With introduction of the Didact they see Chief as a threat? [/spoiler]

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    • I see

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    • Bumped. #RememberGaming.

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    • Don't worry, Halo 4 was just some horrible fanfic.

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      • That pretty ghey bro.

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      • Edited by The Tempun II: 11/6/2013 12:15:26 AM
        [quote]Halo got me there and it was through the eyes and ideas of Dr. Halsey that guided me. Even though she is a fictional character, I do consider Dr. Halsey a kinda of role model.[/quote] This is the kind of thing that really pisses me off about the halo community, the people get so attached to the fiction, and can't just get around the fact that it's a story based around numbers and pre-order sales that estimate how much attention they'll care about. It's a game based on shooting each other until we die. The things that people put relevance into... I can't believe that people that work in video game companies have to put up with this sort of stuff.

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        • Ha. Gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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        • [quote]I apologize if this isn't strictly GAMING...so I hope you'll forgive me.[/quote] Your hoping a random band of complete strangers forgive you? lol *shrug* ok

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          • I personally liked the new Halsey story arc, it gave it a much more mature vibe than the original trilogy. Military intelligence is a dirty messy violent business. People get tortured beat and mistreated all the time under the guise of "intelligence"

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            • Edited by RC32: 7/13/2014 5:30:35 PM
              H4's campaign was just fine. [spoiler]Spartan ops was just the one to murder it.[/spoiler]

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              • Karen Travis is utter trash, and so is every-blam!-ingthing that -blam!- has worked on.

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              • It was just pointless drama created by 343i to make the story more entertaining.

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              • Nylund needs to make another trilogy. A trilogy where we actually get facts instead of having to assume/speculate on the facts and exacts of most things that are new to the universe.

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                • Why is Brian Reed a horrible writer?

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                  • Perhaps Halo 5 is about Chief's journey to find Halsey after she was taken by Jul.

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                  • She needs a prosthesis. Perhaps the other characters shun her practices because 343 wants to display the barrier between science and combat.

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                  • Holy shit. Decepticon? I didn't even know you had an account here.

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                    • You said you think you understand why... ... Then ranted about how you felt. Not about [i]why you think they're treating her character that way[/i].

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                      • You take this thing way too seriously, get over it.

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                        • Spartan Ops in general was just a mess. I hated it from start to finish. Annoying wave after wave by clicking a useless button mechanic to replace firefight and mirror the campaign in a CoD Spec Ops fashion. The story was terrible and it wasn't the slightest bit interesting until Halsey got shot. And even then, Halsey getting shot was pure shit.

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                          • Spartan ops was a disaster from the start, i loved when she was talking about chief in halo 4 intro and then she's all evil and stuff.

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                            • Edited by Nemo: 7/8/2014 12:10:05 AM
                              Wow, this is old... hey, aren't you on Waypoint, too?

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                              • What ever happened to this guy?

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                                • Edited by The Primarch: 7/7/2014 1:29:03 PM
                                  Yeah, I'm pro-halsey

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                                • I always thought that the SPARTAN-II project WAS justifiable. I liked Halsey, I always have. She is an interesting character.

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                                • ...wow... Obsess over someone/something else already. Fictional character in a fictional universe that got handed over to other people. Second hand character. Ha, pun.

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