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7/29/2022 2:44:33 AM
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Just play the game. It’s as simple as that. Like it doesn’t even take long I was already at pinnacle cap on week one/week 2, much like a lot of others. Endgame content should be made for endgame players not casuals.
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Pinnacle grind is luck, you still need to get a metric ton of exp to get the artifact level done though. OP is right and this system is extremely outdated and flawed. Nobody actually enjoys the pinnacle grind to unlock the same -blam!- we already had access to before.
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Luck get easily beaten if you play all the pinnacle Peoples complaining about luck do 3 pinnacle per week and cal the system bad
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Like there barely isn’t anything to do in the game as it is. So adding that extra variable is always going to be a win win when giving their demanding player base something to do.
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Nah, its boring for the majority of players because it *isnt* anything to do, you're literally just doing what you do anyway to unlock the ability to play the actual endgame content. The pinnacle grind is a padlock over content and nothing more. Every season more and more become disgruntled with this system because eits outdated and unnecessary.
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Content should be gated. Specifically GM’s gms release halfway into the season, like it’s really not boring only the first few weeks you do pinnacles and then you have the rest of the season to enjoy new content as well as endgame content. If you want a game that doesn’t allow people to have an ingame advantage based on how long they ‘grind’ go play fortnite or minecraft. Destiny has always been a pay-to-play, grind-to-thrive game and it won’t change so either adapt or get left behind, bungie cares about 1 thing. Money. They make more money based on how much players play therefore willing to pay for extra content, and or cosmetics. Like it’s common sense. If your bored of it then do it better and it will get done sooner.
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Never have I ever met anyone that knows everyone. Can I say I don’t mind getting to pinnacle cap each season, I know a lot that don’t complain about it. Yes it’s somewhat luck but if you do it smartly you’ll get pinnacle cap in 1-3 weeks at most. If you aren’t doing it smart, if you don’t use a system and just do any random pinnacle then you ain’t getting pinnacle cap in the first weeks. Like this game isn’t grindy anymore, I’m at the point where I log on when they add something and then I just get it in a day maybe 2 Log off For the rest of the week. Now with day 1 launch date I’ll be running raids. Like I feel people complain too much Im on 10k hours in destiny and I can’t remember the last time I’ve complained sure things have been an inconvenience but you learn to adapt to it and accept it. There is always an easier way to do things. And people certainly, if they care about day 1 race, reschedule plans, take Time off, get a baby sitter. But to simply complain about when the launch date is I think it’s rather stupid.
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It took you a week to get to the pinnacle cap? That’s ridiculous lol … I reached the cap on the first day. I had +30 on my artefact after one week. The grind is so easy. Should be more.
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Explain to me how a mindless grinding through all of RNG pinnacle drop that may get you to cap on week one or never when you keep getting duplicates is "endgame players"
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Rng barely matter if you do all pinnacle especially raid and dungeon
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So if I get duplicates even from raid and dungeon it's still barely matter?
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Yea Since there's is so many pinnacle activity to do you will get max way before GM starts Anyone doing everything and playing on all 3 (and understanding when to fill with power3 rewards )can easily get 1 character max at week 3 then the next week the 2other follows Playing 1 character will take longer but its like 5-6 week...still before GM are out..
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It’s not. It’s not skill gated anyone can do it, so why complain. The people who put the ‘effort’ in get to enjoy the endgame content. That’s how it works. If everything was given to everyone then there would be no point in chasing the best of the best things. Like if you are complaining about finding it difficult to get to pinnacle cap. Like around 7 weeks rotations before the Grandmasters (specifically) comes out then that is a personal problem.
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So it's a personal problem even when you get duplicates in a row?
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Edited by petite: 7/30/2022 3:44:04 AMYes because it’s well known it’s down to luck but I’ve been getting pinnacle cap at most of 3 weeks into each season. I’ve gotten duplicates yet I don’t cry about it. I just get on with it. Besides at the start of season there isn’t anything that you need to be at pinnacle cap for. So it most definitely is a personal problem if it’s taking you longer than 7 weeks to get to pinnacle cap.
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3 weeks, when in reality it might take less than that because of RNG padding to make it look longer than it is and not everyone has the time every week so reaching pinnacle at the start of the season isn't something bad, it's more to early preparation than being made to run the game every week just for a reason that makes burnout [quote]Like there barely isn’t anything to do in the game as it is. So adding that extra variable is always going to be a win win when giving their demanding player base something to do.[/quote] A win if the variable is on the loot play style, not a requirement to run a part of the game or running the older activities you can run before. I've made several threads like adding signature perk, model rework to make each foundry having their own unique model and reload animation like borderlands 2. Hek, give me that double barrel shotgun for Tex Mechanica and I'll be back in a heartbeat [quote]bungie cares about 1 thing. Money. They make more money based on how much players play therefore willing to pay for extra content, and or cosmetics.[/quote] And they forget that player satisfaction is also a factor if a player wants to spend money or not. Seeing how many price tags in the game and content chopped as separate purchase like dungeon, people would think twice and would be worse if their peers have all negative view on destiny
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Edited by petite: 7/31/2022 7:05:27 AMI haven’t thought twice about buying access to content. If it gives an advantage I’ll take it. I enjoy games like this where people can’t just download the game and then have everything in a week. Or be on the same level as someone who has committed thousands of hours into the game. If people want to be on the same level then they need to put the time into it. If they have a busy schedule and can’t invest time into this game then perhaps they should just play a more catering game. Because frankly bungie isn’t going to change and I encourage more endgame content to be introduced. Expansion releases are the perfect time for new lights to join the game.
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[quote]I enjoy games like this where people can’t just download the game and then have everything in a week. Or be on the same level as someone who has committed thousands of hours into the game.[/quote] Then I don't believe you because a new player can reach the same pinnacle power level with those who committed thousands of hours in weeks from grinding mindlessly [quote]I encourage more endgame content to be introduced[/quote] Locking content behind RNG grind isn't something you can call as endgame content, endgame content means you need more than bare minimum skill and not how lucky you are on RNG drop to reach max power level [quote]Expansion releases are the perfect time for new lights to join the game.[/quote] When barely any content to play with and so many things locked behind paywall or removed? I don't think so [quote]If people want to be on the same level then they need to put the time into it[/quote] This would be a thing if they don't increase the power level every time and we still have story from red war to forsaken. Right now there's no progression and power level is just a mere grind padding before you can play a part of the game [quote]I haven’t thought twice about buying access to content. If it gives an advantage I'll take it[/quote] Buying content for advantage means the game is p2w then
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Edited by petite: 7/31/2022 11:56:00 AMYou are not understanding. A new light would have to put in work, they would have to learn the game, they would have to find out what to grind for. Grinding for loot is what makes it fun. Wether it takes 200 raid clear or more to get whatever it is. Or run a gm 50+ times that week to get the roll you want, whatever it is, the grind is what I consider endgame, not the activities themselves. EVERY SINGLE activity bungie has ever brought to this game is too easy to consider it a challenge. Putting time into getting the best roles of each weapon is what I consider. I couldn’t care how long it takes people to get things they can be really lucky and get it right away or take hours upon hours. Either way there isn’t a weapon in this game that I don’t have the perfect roll for. No new light is going to get to the same level as someone who has been playing since release, in both weapon inventory, resources and knowledge on the game and the games history including lore. It will take months to get even remotely close. All it means is casuals might just take longer to get some things, that’s all.
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[quote]A new light would have to put in work[/quote] Put in work for what? [quote]they would have to learn the game[/quote] And what is there to learn? [quote]they would have to find out what to grind for.[/quote] What's the point? If there's only a few to grind for, that means this game is bloated with useless items [quote]Wether it takes 200 raid clear or more to get whatever it is. Or run a gm 50+ times that week to get the roll you want, whatever it is, the grind is what I consider endgame[/quote] For you, mindless grinding for rolls isn't something that I would call as "endgame" [quote]No new light is going to get to the same level as someone who has been playing since release, in both weapon inventory, resources and knowledge on the game and the games history including lore.[/quote] Weapon inventory? Unless it's old seasonal or locked behind paywall, new lights will have them in a short time Resources? Grind public events and open chests, I believe new lights will have lots of them if they're not burned out on the gameplay loop first Lore? That if everyone can handle reading pages where people would go with "I rather read a book". Games are supposed to "show, don't tell", don't make players read pages just to understand the lore
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I believe you are now just saying whatever to fit your narrative. I’m clear on what I am saying, I’ve 10k hours in destiny and when I say the endgame Is getting loot I mean it, the activities are easy as, to the basic new light a raid might see daunting because they haven’t learnt it, and when I say they need to learn the game you respond with „learn what?“ are you an idiot? They literally have to learn everything, how quick and or how effective abilities, weapons, subclass are in pvp/ pve, they have to learn how certain processes in the game work, if they don’t want the game to be confusing in terms of story for them, they’ll have to watch a video for a few hours on the entire story. Like come on you say new lights can get up to the same stage as someone whose been playing for years in a week, people who ply the game in a comfortable amount of time, like yourself, aren’t even at that stage. Also with you talking about endless farming of weapon rolls, it’s not endless, I’ve come to the point in the game where I’m only logging on Tuesday’s because I have everything. Once you have each Element of each type of weapon in the game, bows, scouts, linear, fusion, auto, pulse, rockets ect ect once you have the pve god rolls of those (mainly for match game and or acute burns modifiers) if you are a pvp player certain weapons would be good in pvp so then get the pvp godroll for each weapon, now ‚godrolls‘ is a relative term, they are a preference thing based on your playstyle, a new light is not going to understand the game to know their playstyle in a few weeks that’s not how it works, including the assumption that they have bought all expansions, dungeon pass, current season pass. All of that. For you too say otherwise just proves that who I am talking to is not aware of the game at all.
