[quote]75. That is the amount of crucible/gambit matches you NEED to run in order to fully upgrade all three sets of armour. 75.[/quote] There are, supposedly, three weeks of Solstice. You get Silver Leaves upon completion. You don't have to win the matches. Just complete. Mayhem is this week. Pop on some fun gear and gather some mates and have fun. Or do a few Gambit matches. I know I need another reset for the ornament to get a Seasonal Challenge done. [quote]I am an almost exclusively PvE player. I have no issues with crucible or gambit, I think they bring a lot to the game & I'll always jump in at the start of a new season to grab some pinnacles or some new loot, I just don't vibe playing those modes for extended periods. Is that so wrong ? [/quote] No. It's fine not to like certain modes or to just not feel the energy they bring. I am mostly a PvE player. I do story stuff and mainly Raids. But I do hop into PvP or Gambit for pinnacle drops or when I want to complete Seasonal Challenges. [Quote]Imagine a scenario where you went to a restaurant & ordered a popcorn chicken starter, medium rare steak for main course, chocolate cake for dessert & a nice cold beer. Imagine that the waiter informs you that you can have the starter & the main course but in order to get your dessert & your drink you need to order a fish course too. Imagine you explained that fish made you queasy & while you'd be prepared to order the fish course, you wouldn't be able to eat it. Well imagine if the waiter came back & insisted that you eat the fish, imagine he stood there & watched you finish every nauseating bite before he would bring your dessert & beer over. Let me ask you, would you consider that an acceptable way to treat a paying customer ? [/quote] In this scenario, if a restaurant doesn't, or can't, accommodate your dietary needs, go to another restaurant. With your analogy here, I feel like there is some burnout going on with Destiny. I would, in my honest opinion, try to put it down for a while and play something else. Just a thought. [Quote]Look, I am not averse to a bit of a grind. Hell, I'm a PvE player, we live for that -blam!-. But forcing me to play modes I actively dislike playing for ABSOLUTELY NO DISCERNABLE REASON beyond your own laziness... well boy I dunno, that seems like a really shi**y thing to do.[/quote] You're not [i]really[/i] being forced to do anything. You don't have to do this event. You don't have to get the Seal. Honestly, I'm doing it to hang out with friends and have a good time. Maybe get some materials and my Light Level up to do some GMs with my mates. And some Bright Dust from Eva's bounties. I [i]didn't[/i] have to grind out two Rank resets for The Iron Lord title. But I wanted that shader. I weighed my time against a series of pretty pixels and the pixels won. [Quote]On a side note, while bullying & threatening people online is never acceptable, one of the reasons it happens to Bungie devs is because the company's) words NEVER match their actions.[/quote] Should NEVER happen. Period. Doesn't matter what someone has or hasn't done, bullying/harrassment is NOT the answer. Do not harass or bully ANYONE online. Don't do it offline, either.

[quote]Let me ask you, would you consider that an acceptable way to treat a paying customer ?[/quote] I would definitely say the customers that agree to it & do it over & over again for years deserve it. I'd also scratch my head at the customers that agree to it & do it regularly for years, but complain about it every day.

This is not a custom order restaurant, bad example, in this restaurant everyone has to eat the same thing, so the chef has to consider everyone , not just you

Bungie thinks since it's 21 day event you eventually do it. In reality, no one wants to do anything about any event longer then single week. On my hunter and titan I'm already did 14/24, that's means only 10 left to do. And those 10 will be done before reset and since my armor is fine, i don't want to grind silver ash for armor.

If you want all the rewards/triumphs in this game, expect to play all the activities in this game.

Is the fish medium rare too? If so ... I'm leaving that restaurant and cooking at home.