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Edited by PAIN Terrorz:
3/31/2019 3:22:43 PM
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Lunas howl and Not Forgotten need a nerf
A weapon that:
Takes little to no recoil/flinch when being shot
Is deadly accurate with extremely high stability
Has the highest time to kill that other Pinnacle weapons cannot achieve (Excluding crucible weapons)
Makes better players better and widens a skill gap between being good and having a weapon
Ruins the overall game experience for those who don't have it
A weapon like that, needs a nerf
(Edit: holy god over 200 replies! I love how Passionate this community is, as such please debate but do so in respect to the opinions of others)
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It's not that OP really. It needs Shank Burn to become the most broken HC in the series...
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Just use Rat King. The mindless fools who rely on only radar will never see you coming.
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Luna is tracking at nearly 11% of all pvp kills right now, not sure what that combines with NF for....
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6 RepliesEdited by HotdogJones: 3/31/2019 4:08:38 PMnews flash: nobody uses Luna on PC unless they are grinding their 300 kills. Gtfo 30fps console is my suggestion. what a joke. The gun doesn't need a nerf, your system of choice is trash
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I'd like to see them be awesome for a season after possible to aquire. Then be removed entirely. They're clear top tier options. Players should hand them for a while then need to aquire new gear. Planned obscelence.
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Edited by LittleLight: 3/31/2019 5:43:03 PMIt only needs to reduce the flinch that it causes other weapons so that other weapons can out gun it sometimes. It needs no other nerf. Many people, like myself, put in a ton of effort into getting it. Now, the weapon should just be unobtainable.
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Nope they are fine leave it as is
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17 RepliesDon't punish the players who grinded because you can't obtain it that's foolish.
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4 RepliesPinnacle Weapons deserve to be powerful The people who toiled for them deserve to be given a powerful gun To nerf it would be to shame all those who put in the blood sweat and tears to earn them.
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Restrict them to comp, rumble, and Iron Banner. Dont nerf them
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Nerfs not needed. Remove bloom on other HC’s and go from there.
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32 RepliesEdited by Crucify: 3/31/2019 4:32:37 PM[quote] Has the highest time to kill that other Pinnacle weapons cannot achieve[/quote] Lunas Howl/Not Forgotten TTK with magnificent howl: 0.67 Redrix Claymore/Broadsword TTK with desperado: 0.54 The Recluse TTK with Master of Arms: 0.47 The Mountain Top TTK: OHK So no, of all the PvP pinnacle weapons Lunas and NF actually have the slowest TTks when their unique perk is active. Also people can blame these guns all they want, but the fact of the matter is, even before these guns were a thing, you lot were still finishing with negative KD's. The only difference back then was that you couldn't use "inaccessible" pinnacle weapons as a scapegoat since everything you were getting killed with, you also had access to. I'd be willing to give all of you 0.5's Not Forgottens because i know you'd put them down after a week of missing your headshots. People are just better than you, there's no shame in it. EDIT: You made this post after losing 2 Comp matches yesterday, one to a team of lunas and the other team where a dude had NF, they guy who had NF and stomped you, lost his next match in Comp where no one on the enemy team was using pinnacle weapons, case and point, it's not the guns.
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Guys, PVP balance should be directed to the PVP sandbox team! Why don’t we just ask the crucible sandbox lead, Jon Weis—whoops, guess crucible will remain as is until D3
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1 ReplyI'm one of those annoying people who run a fusion and my beautiful blast furnace. I rarely die to lunas and to not forgotten. Everything has a counter in this game, except maybe a few supers. The only thing that needs to be done is bring some weapons into the game or buff a few so they can have more competitive ttks. Or make another weapon with magnificent howl. I don't understand why people want to ruin something that takes dedication and skill to obtain.
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They need more of a rework than a nerf. Luna and NF are absurdly powerful and ruin the crucible sandbox because no matter how many balance changes crucible gets they’ll always be the number 1 choice for a competitive activity. But to nerf them would be a slap in the face of everyone who grinned and toiled for them, especially not forgotten. They’re a problem, but you can’t really solve that problem without shitting on thousands of players hours of hard work
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5 RepliesHawkmoon should have Magnificent Howl, change my mind.
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Just need luck in the chamber back on all hand cannon types back in d1 we had powerful hand cannons.
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I couldn't willingly use Luna against others. It isn't a fair weapon. I think I'm better without it.
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Do you even have Luna's? Just because you get killed by it doesn't mean you deserve to punish me for grinding it by nerfing the gun. Get one and use it to counter the others, or just be a better player.
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Lunas howl and not forgotten are earned weaponds .you have to compete against the best as your glory goes up so in my opinion if you earn it great it should be good it will not get nerfed because of this. If you like it and want it go get it if not shut up
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1 ReplyEdited by necewin: 3/31/2019 4:09:51 PMI don’t even know why 180 rpm HCs exist. Glorified sidearms basically. The First Curse or any HC from D1 should be the archetype for this weapon type. It’s a shame Malfeasance is 180 too. Would feel godly at a lower rpm. The Last Word should be the only HC with a high rpm.
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It’s hilarious how poorly thought out adding LH and NF to D2 was. They made the best 2 HCs in the game able to be acquired in “comp” and then be used in Quickplay to farm casual players. Now they added the SMG to do the same thing. I’m all for allowing “comp” pinnacle weapons for those who want to grind for top tier weapons but keep them the -blam!- out of Quickplay. I played PVP a lot more in D1 because I enjoyed it but imagine a dev team knowing casual players are getting farmed in a “casual” playlist by players with better weapons and not doing anything about it. FOH
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LH can easily be outranged and if a person got NF legit well mad respect. Just wish I could find people to play, everyone I find wants me to pay money for it.
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I think that the chamber size should be decreased to like 8 shots or so. This rewards people who have good aim to still get a triple before reloading but punish those who just spam it.
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1 ReplyYou are gonna hate me with Hawkmoon then
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3 RepliesLuna’s and NF is just another layer of “broken” in PvP. You could remove those OP weapons and PvP would still be absolute trash as a result of the poor/non existent matchmaking. They’re definitely a problem for what little there is left to Destiny though. Probably wouldn’t be an issue if scoring Luna’s/NF wasn’t so dependent on unbalanced matchmaking and connection/region lottery.
