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5/21/2017 12:03:02 PM
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They aren't synonymous. Communism is more extreme than socialism, and is the end-goal of the implementation of a socialist economic system.
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[quote]They aren't synonymous. Communism is more extreme than socialism, and is the end-goal of the implementation of a socialist economic system.[/quote] Blah blah blah socialism is socialism wherever implemented. Communism has never been obtained because it's a fantasy Soviet Union was socialist not communist the difference from that and let's say n@zi Germany was implemented by a communist party with the idea of supposed communist end goal. N@zi party was at a goal much similar to the progressive socialist idea
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I'm not arguing with you anymore. You're a troll.
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[quote]I'm not arguing with you anymore. You're a troll.[/quote] Hahahahahahahaha ya so anyone who calmly states the truth is somehow a troll? [spoiler]k.[/spoiler]
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No. I've had a year's worth of experience with talking to you. I can usually tell when someone is bullshitting me. It's either that or you're just really really dumb.
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[quote]No. I've had a year's worth of experience with talking to you. I can usually tell when someone is bullshitting me. It's either that or you're just really really dumb.[/quote] I'm not bullshittin you I'm trying to educate you the idea of Communism is an anarchist Society however unlike an anarchist libertarian they believe in utopian fallacy that everybody will work without pay and work together in harmony. Now what their goal was is to eliminate the wealth the capitalist system by destroying it through socialism and that's the whole irony of it their goal what is an anarchist Society by creating a powerful centralized government. With [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] Germany Hitler's goal was power by using populist national propaganda and sieving control through socialism without a goal of communism but instead a pure race world. His was more about his idea of human perfection the soviets goal was a utopia where everyone was the same. I've stated before there really isn't that big of a difference between the socialist models
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This is what I mean. You use right-wing propaganda snd stereotypes, not accepted by any academic institution. You refuse to think about what you're saying. You're not as smart as you think you are.
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[quote]This is what I mean. You use right-wing propaganda snd stereotypes, not accepted by any academic institution. You refuse to think about what you're saying. You're not as smart as you think you are.[/quote] That's a hefty claim. Prove I use propoganda. So far all I do is promote individual liberty and try to educate people that government while has its purpose in the end isn't your friend. Here's an easy way to flip that back at you. In your own words what does it mean to be right wing?
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[quote][quote]This is what I mean. You use right-wing propaganda snd stereotypes, not accepted by any academic institution. You refuse to think about what you're saying. You're not as smart as you think you are.[/quote] That's a hefty claim. Prove I use propoganda. So far all I do is promote individual liberty and try to educate people that government while has its purpose in the end isn't your friend. Here's an easy way to flip that back at you. In your own words what does it mean to be right wing?[/quote] Its an accurate claim. You truly do refuse to think about what you are saying. You have a hard time defending your political beliefs because they are not your own. When cornered you always fall back on "your wrong im right" or some variation of "free market fixes all"
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[quote][quote][quote]This is what I mean. You use right-wing propaganda snd stereotypes, not accepted by any academic institution. You refuse to think about what you're saying. You're not as smart as you think you are.[/quote] That's a hefty claim. Prove I use propoganda. So far all I do is promote individual liberty and try to educate people that government while has its purpose in the end isn't your friend. Here's an easy way to flip that back at you. In your own words what does it mean to be right wing?[/quote] Its an accurate claim. You truly do refuse to think about what you are saying. You have a hard time defending your political beliefs because they are not your own. When cornered you always fall back on "your wrong im right" or some variation of "free market fixes all"[/quote] Funny thing is the free market does fix all but you people are so faaaake saying my thoughts aren't my own when I always properly defend my stances is character assassination grow up have a real debate and learn some -blam!-ing logic
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"Hitler is a leftist" "Bernie is a Marxist" There's your proof. Neither of those claims have been backed by academics. To be right-wing historically means to support tradition, limited government and the social hierarchy.
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[quote]"Hitler is a leftist" "Bernie is a Marxist" There's your proof. Neither of those claims have been backed by academics. To be right-wing historically means to support tradition, limited government and the social hierarchy.[/quote] Oh so you didn't say the usual crap usually say about right-wingers. With that definition then Hitler wasn't right wing. Bernie Sanders is a Marxist definition the insights class Warfare attacking people on their wealth rather than their morality. He like all marxists live in a utopian fallacy. It's really a long discussion to why I've come to that conclusion about him personally I'd be willing have it if you drop the insulting comments and have a real discussion
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There is no discussion with strawman abusers. Bernie isn't advocating for a dictatorship of the proletariat, therefore you are talking out of your ass.
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[quote]There is no discussion with strawman abusers. Bernie isn't advocating for a dictatorship of the proletariat, therefore you are talking out of your ass.[/quote] He's asking for a huge centralized government he even calls himself a socialist he doesn't even hide it so please stop before you hurt yourself
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What you call yourself vs what you actually are, are two different things.
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[quote]What you call yourself vs what you actually are, are two different things.[/quote] Except his policies prove what he is. Enigma open your -blam!-ing eyes
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My eyes are open. I study this stuff. He resembles FDR more than Marx.
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[quote]My eyes are open. I study this stuff. He resembles FDR more than Marx.[/quote] FDR was a socialist also ffs lol.
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No. There was no collective ownership of the means of production.
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[quote]No. There was no collective ownership of the means of production.[/quote] I said he was a socialist not that we were a socialist country however we are a quasi socialist country at the moment so I don't know what you're talking about a lot of it was brought on by his policies
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There is no socialism without the abolition of capitslism. Read Marx.
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[quote]There is no socialism without the abolition of capitslism. Read Marx.[/quote] I've read his -blam!-ed up book socialism is a means of the end goal communism. You destroy the capitalist system through taxation,regulation, and redistribution of wealth. You create a stigma by baiting the labor worker or "working class" against the rich. Wether his end goal is communism is irrelevant he and the democrats use plays of both marx and Lewinsky this is why I call them marxists and Lewinskyites. The only reason it hasn't gone the way of Venezuela is our system of government otherwise wed be further gone from a free society than we already are
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Yet the end goal has never been communism, or even socialism. Denmark's been a successful social democracy for decades, and their economic freedom is increasing, rather than the oppisite.
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[quote]Yet the end goal has never been communism, or even socialism. Denmark's been a successful social democracy for decades, and their economic freedom is increasing, rather than the oppisite.[/quote] Denmark is not doing well though how about sweet and how come they're doing worse off now than when they had laissez faire?
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Wrong. They're topping the charts in most categories.
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[quote]Wrong. They're topping the charts in most categories.[/quote] Whatever that means I said a fact Denmark isn't doing too hot and Sweden did better under laissez-faire I've given you the proof before
