[b][u]PVP[/u][/b]
PSA: The suros pdx-45 is one of the best pulse rifles in pvp right now, with the right perks this gun can absolutely destroy enemy guardians, definitely worth buying, if I had the space I'd grab one on each character even.
Onto the rolls:
[b][u]Omolon[/u][/b]
[b][i][u]Uffern HC4[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight
Mulligan
Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel
Life Support/Surrounded
Roll 2:
Fastdraw/Quickdraw/Sureshot
Mulligan
Snapshot/Injection Mold
Icarus/Surrounded
Roll 3:
Fastdraw/Quickdraw/Sureshot
Mulligan
Quickdraw/Reinforced Barrel
Rescue Mag/Surrounded
Recommendation: None, wait on it
[b][i][u]Cocytus SR4[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Candle/Torch/Impulse
Rescue Mag
Quickdraw/Smallbore
Third Eye/EotS
Roll 2:
Spark/Flash/Impulse
Triple Tap
Lightweight/Feather Mag
Zen Moment/Exhumed
Roll 3:
Candle/Torch/Impulse
Rescue Mag
Snapshot/Casket Mag
Firefly/Surrounded
Recommendation: None, wait on this, can counter snipers with ideal perks
[b][i][u]Tuonela SR4[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Spark/Torch/Impulse
Triple Tap
Lightweight/Feather Mag
Firefly/Danger Close
Roll 2:
Candle/Flash/Impulse
Replenish
SPS/Casket Mag
Firefly/Danger Close
Roll 3:
Spark/Flash/Impulse
Rescue Mag
Snapshot/Feather Mag
Third Eye/Underdog
Recommendation: None, these aren't great rolls
[b][i][u]Thesan FR4[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Solar
Spark/Torch
AoO
Quickdraw/Braced Frame
Life Support/Surrounded
Roll 2:
Void
Candle/Torch
AoO
Enhanced Battery/HLS
Underdog/Surrounded
Roll 3:
Arc
Spark/Torch
Grenadier
Lightweight/Injection Mold
Unflinching/Surrounded
Recommendation: None, we're getting closer to the ideal roll
[b][u]Häkke[/u][/b]
[b][i][u]Judith-D[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Truesight/Sureshot
Hot Swap
Rangefinder
Snapshot/APR/Smallbore
Roll 2:
Truesight/Steadyhand
Triple Tap
Outlaw
Snapshot/APR/Oiled Frame
Roll 3:
Fastdraw/Sureshot
Hot Swap
S&P
Speed Reload/HCR/Smallbore
Recommendation: No reinforced = no
[b][i][u]Herja-D[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
GA Post/LB Assault
Surrounded
Unflinching
Snapshot/Speed Reload/Oiled Frame
Roll 2:
SC Holo/LC Ranged
AoO
S&P
HCR/Hand Loaded/HLS
Roll 3:
GA Post/LD Watchdog
Danger Close
Unflinching
Snapshot/Hand Loaded/HLS
Recommendation: None, wait on it
[b][i][u]Tamar-D[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Void
ATA Scout/ATD Raptor
Outlaw
Performance Bonus
EXR/APR/Injection Mold
Roll 2:
Arc
ATB Long Range/ATD Raptor
Private Eye
Partial Refund
Perfect Balance/Snapshot/Appended Magazine
Roll 3:
Void
ATA Scout/ATD Raptor
Surplus
Performance Bonus
EXR/Snapshot/Appended Magazine
Recommendation: Roll 1, quickdraw plus extra ammo on kills and lightning fast reload after headshots.
[b][u]Suros[/u][/b]
[b][i][u]PDX-41[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
SLO-19/SPO-26/SRO-37
Perfect Balance/Oiled Framd
Zen Moment
Speed Reload/Injection Mold
Roll 2:
SLO-19/SPO-28/SRO-41
Hammer Forged/Casket Mag
S&P
Speed Reload/Rifled Barrel
Roll 3:
SLO-19/SPO-28/SRO-41
Fitted Stock/Oiled Frame
Secret Round
Lightweight/HLS
Recommendation: None, wait on counterbalance/perfect balance/Rifled or something similar
[b][i][u]JLB-47[/u][/i][/b]
Roll 1:
Arc
Aggressive Launch/SDC/Hard Launch
SPS/Flared Magwell
Tripod
Javelin/Quickdraw
Roll 2:
Arc
Aggressive Launch/Soft Launch/Countermass
SPS/Speed Reload
Cluster Bomb
Javelin/Lightweight
Roll 3:
Warhead Verniers/Linear Compensator/Hard Launch
SPS/Speed Reload
G&H
Perfect Balance/Quickdraw
Recommendation: Roll 3 has grenades and horseshoes finally, although a true god roll would include blast radius and velocity boosts alongside it this roll isn't bad.
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I know right, ive been waiting FOREVER for the PDX-45 !!!!!
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Perfect balace, counter balance, rifled barrel....doesnt get better than that
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I disagree highly with the Suros pdx 41 conclusion. If you want a amazing pulse for pvp. The one with perfect balance and zen moment is amazing. The only thing missing for a god roll is rifled barrel. I have a hawksaw with this roll and it made me vault/dismantle the counter balance, braced ones i have.
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zen moment is worthless. counterbalance makes all shots basically crit head shots. You are delusional
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You don`t actually need vertical recoil to hit head shots. Sure on some guns i think counterbalance is a amazing perk.. But on the hawksaw archetype its actually not needed at all.. Zen moment gives you 100% stability after one burst, when you also have another stability perk. There is no kick whatsoever after zen moment kicks in.. so saying zen moment is useless is bull****.. Its also a skill thing i guess, if you cant handle the weapons recoil pattern without counter.. i guess counter rises in value as a perk.
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Edited by Haunter: 4/20/2017 9:24:52 AMI prefer counterbalance over zen moment, it's still not clear how much stability zen moment adds or if it has a cooldown while counterbalance is always active Secondly that roll has injection mold, I personally wouldn't want to hurt any range if I can avoid it, waiting for rifled/perfect balance seems to be the right call, middle tree wise is preference based but I'd prefer counterbalance over any other perk in that tree
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Eh everybody has their preferences :)
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I think zen moment stacks up to 20 % increase in stability. And it seems that on pulse rifles one burst fully stacks the perk. I am really hoping to get a pulse with counter balance, rifled and zen moment. If its possible, not checked that possibility yet.
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[quote]I think zen moment stacks up to 20 % increase in stability. And it seems that on pulse rifles one burst fully stacks the perk. I am really hoping to get a pulse with counter balance, rifled and zen moment. If its possible, not checked that possibility yet.[/quote] Hakke Pulse rifles I know can get a full zen stack from 1 burst. Not too sure about others. Suros' passive stability makes it hard to test tbh. Zen has it merits. I love it on snipers tbh (helps with the flinch) Most folks aim for range to reduce dmg fall off.
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What rolls should we be looking for on the pdx-45? As I have 1 in the vault
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Best possible roll would have perfect balance and rifled barrel. Main perk is generally preference based, I highly recommend counterbalance but some love full auto or rangefinder. The best part about the 45 is how customizable it is, some put all in on range (hammer forged, rangefinder, rifled) others all for stability (perfect balance, counterbalance, smallbore) I like using a mixture, it generally performs the best Sights are also preference but I enjoy the slo-19. A god roll for me would have slo-19, perfect balance, counterbalance and rifled barrel.
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I got SPO-28, full auto, perfect balance and rifled barrel on my SUROS PDX-45. It's a beast. Had it since the early days of the Taken King.
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Ah the 1 I have has. Slo19 High cal rounds Hidden hand Reinforced barrel
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I imagine you'd prefer one with less jumpy recoil though eh? Grab the order and we'll see throughout the weeks what drops. I'd recommend buying one on each actually - been 6 months since the last time he sold it
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Yes it us very good. I will place my order this week. Here is my current roll. My next one, I'm going for more range. Perfect Balance Full Auto Hand Laid Stock
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I highly recommend perfect balance and rifled barrel. Main perk is preference based, I'd go with counterbalance but if you enjoy full auto by all means. I believe I have a full auto roll, if you want I could stream with it and link you the clip
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Correction on the touanella sr4 With the right perks it can counter icebreaker There are no other snipers outside NLB maybe that people use
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You mean Cocytus And yes lol, icebreaker counter
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Yeah I meant that lol