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1/16/2016 10:32:46 AM
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People that defend snipers
So I decided to upload this video of this happening as proof that snipers are currently unchallenged in the crucible right now. People like to claim aim assist is the problem and what not but they are wrong. They have no idea what their talking about.
The true issue lies in weapon flinching. I've started sniping a little after HoW dropped and I got to a point where I'm quite exceptional, nowhere near people like kjhovey or TV or even mtashed. But I'm calling them out. Snipers are your crutch. It's sad that you people defend snipers in their current state. They have no negative draw backs. You can miss a shot then oh well you still got time for a follow up.
I've listened to the planet destiny podcast about sniper flinching and just face palmed. I felt like I was the only one that was thinking logically. So basically the guy is saying if I shoot a sniper from his flanks he flinches more than from a head on encounter? How stupid. If I'm flanking a sniper it don't matter how much he flinches because I've already won. But a head on encounter is where it matters the most. Oh snap I carelessly wondered into his sniper lane and I want to live. I'll flinch him out so he can't kill me. Nope the reality is he's nowhere near affected by flinch.
In no encounter should anyone encounter a sniper deliver the first shot and get domed immediately with no struggle on his part. Snipers right now take no skill to use because let's face it they have no contenders. Mida barely phases me. Doctrine of passing is laughable. High caliber rounds pulse rifles are laughable as well. Snipers need to flinch a hell of a lot more than they do now. Why shouldn't I be punished for not being stealthy? If I'm scoped in and a guy shoots me the flinch should be so severe that it forces me to disengage or use my primary. I really wish people would stand up for balance and force bungie to listen. This is not the way to go.
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1 ReplyThis video is sheer luck you garbage can.
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5 RepliesYou're mad cause you got a triple kill?
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6 RepliesWhat does that prove? Those people r just bad snipers
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1 ReplyI saw plenty of stagger in that video. Don't blame snipers for the fact that those 3 people don't know how to hit headshots.
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4 RepliesSo you challenged 3 snipers and made a post complaining about people are sniping to much when you yourself use a sniper in the clip...... ok...?
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4 RepliesWait so your proof of snipers going unchallenged is three snipers being taken down by another sniper ... Seems they were challenged and failed at it Good talk
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1 ReplyEdited by Glow: 1/21/2016 11:40:18 AMEveryone can see that this thread is just a sandbox for kids that have a hard time accepting that sniper rifles have a bigger learning curve than shotguns. Are you really that retarded to challenge a lane with an AR when you see him sniping at a distance? "MOM! HE DOESN'T FLINCH ENOUGH, I GOT SNIPED! I NEED ANOTHER GAME"! Edit: Do also run at someone using a shotgun with a scoutrifle and think shotguns are unbalanced because he one-shot you? Does shotguns need a nerf too maybe? You just never stop do you?
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2 RepliesYou're also using the promontory, which almost always comes back down to head level and lines up your next shot on a head, especially if they are next to each other. That gun is definitely about the aim assist.
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1 ReplyOmg one time you got a triple call cnn this is amazing. So you played some scrubs that lined up for you congrats don't blame all snipers when your using one of the highest aim assist snipers.
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2 RepliesSo Destiny's PvP has become what CoD became years ago lol!
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3 RepliesId prefer either sway or scope out if hit.
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They nerfed snipers in HoW, AND you [b]CHALLENGED[/b] three snipers... Your theory is flawed
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You say this but I have sniped since HoW and I can easily say snipers have gotten worse. Furthermore I put on a shotty last week and easily dominated with very little resistance.
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I think head shots on a sniper should have more of a flinch effect for sure, but I don't think making absolutely any damage flinch is a good idea, because people could just pop out spamming bullets with an auto rifle and hope to hit a body shot to start flinching you. Bungie would then have to make the different weapon types and archetypes flinch differently depending on impact and rate of fire, it's a lot of work to change the flinch mechanic on snipers without breaking them.
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Edited by Gray Walker: 1/21/2016 12:19:38 PM[quote]The true issue lies in weapon flinching[/quote] Yeah there isn't enough flinching . * Got shot and my gun start to fly because they drinked some RedBull. * ...
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1 ReplyLmao go look at the snipe im using now.. i -blam!-in love it and will ise it over my 1k dtare ill oblilerate you with any snipe
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FOR -blam!-S SAKE SHUT THE -blam!- UP
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They already flinch a lot it's just the aim assist slows down every time it's over someone's head even when it's recoiling
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5 RepliesI'm a destiny fan but I'm at the end of my rope over snipers. I consider myself a decent PVP player but since the YR2 Meta's I'm struggling. Mostly due to Snipers, I'm waiting to see the next round of gun changes but if they don't crush these things hard then yes I'll be on the hunt for a new PVP game. Its f@cking maddening to be in position to land the first shots in a gun fight only to get one shotted by a guy who is taking fire and strafing with a sniper rifle. When it takes me 4 shots to make a kill but the F'ing sniper can just duck and weeve like he's got a pistol and come out with the head shot or the Eirenne luck in the chamber body shot, thats BS. I also love that the snipers can miss a head shot but still have time to nail me with a second easy body shot before I can possibly kill you with all crits from my primary. My experience in YR1 was that the High impact Pulse rifles and Thorn helped equal the playing field on snipers. Now however I have to stand it that hallway for 4 burts/Rounds and its only a matter of time before he lines up his headshot for the kill. In YR1 I could land my shot (if he missed the headshot) then pop back out for the second and get the kill, Now I'm a sitting duck. Snipers have ruined destiny PVP for me, The number of deaths I take to snipers in games is insane. Primaries are useless in Destiny. Playing trials these days is even worth the time because it just turns into congested firing lanes of hard scope sniper fights. So hopefully Bungie fixes this Sh!t or that will be the last straw for me.
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3 RepliesI want to add that snipers shouldn't be able to kill in two bodyshots. If I miss my headshot and get a bodyshot instead, even with a high impact sniper, I have enough time to get the second bodyshot and kill my opponent. Snipers are precision weapons. If you're not precise, you should be punished
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All your video shows, is that snipers are unchallenged at sniping distances. That clip is also not a very good demonstration, as it plays into the strengths of the arguement that you are attempting to make. If you want to convince me, I would need to see there consecutive headshots, and at differing ranges and elevations. It is not hard headshotting guardians when they are standing next to each other. Back in year one, I could easily get a triple or a breaker when the heads were all lined up in a row, back then though, nobody claimed that snipers were OP.
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Edited by KnockdownPath77: 1/21/2016 4:18:14 AMI'm a day one sniper and I've always enjoyed sniping but the past couple of days have made me realize that snipers need to have a higher skill cap. And in order for that to happen aim assist needs to be nerfed so it's harder to use snipers. Edit:I also agree that the flinch factor needs to be increased.
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It's frustrating. I get the jump on you. I'm shooting you in the head before you shoot me. Yet the flinch is so low you still get your accurate shot off? Even though your being shot at?
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you have a good point, and bring about a logical explanation. it's a shame people on forums never listen to reason. people have been taught their whole life that snipers are a skilled marksmans weapon, now that there is finally a game they can use them effectively its balanced to them. if they admit it's broken, they will be admitting that they aren't really such an amazing sniper. I hope bungie does something about this.
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It's funny when I'm sniping I aim at the chest and it corrects me to the head Thank u game
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1 ReplyI don't defend snipers. In fact, a loath them more than any other thing in Destiny. Today in Crucible, there were 3 snipers on the same fireteam who kept spawn camping me and denying me kills. I didn't get even ONE DAMN KILL throughout the whole entire match because of them. One of them even shot me through a wall. Worst fuking crucible experience ever.
