Maybe it's due to my mmo background but I have had no trouble finding solid players to group with via destinylfg and this sub. Not being a self proclaimed badass, just saying it takes minimal effort to beat it as intended. I'd be more than glad to help others due so rather than having them cheese every part of the raid and claim to have worked for their gear. Believe it or not there is a sense of accomplishment achieved when you complete it correctly. All it takes is the right outlook on what raiding is.