[quote]Nah. He's right. There's a lot of effort into actually doing these boss fights the real way and its a major letdown to know that people just gimmicked the raid to get rewards. [/quote] I def agree with that. I prefer doing the correct way. The sense of accomplishment after that final sword whack on crota was great. I'm just mad because I am sure bungie will focus on the cheese before even attempting to fix any raid issues. When we played saturday night, we had crota down to a sliver of health 4 times. 1st time the sword bearer trolled us and wouldn't come out before crota enraged (not a glitch, just a jerk move on his part lol). 2nd time we all started heavily lagging to the point where crota was in one spot then across the map, and eventually wound up down in the middle with us. (we all have good connections and part leader was on fiber). 3rd time the sword could not be picked up. 4th time he our asses and got what he deserved. lol