Really? I don't doubt that there are a lot of salty titans calling for prismatic hunters to be nerfed into the ground, but I'm not one of them. In fact, if you look, you'll see that I told the one salty titan main in this thread who called for prismatic hunter to be nerfed into the ground to calm down. The only time I've been salty in this thread is when hunter mains resort to personally attacking me instead of forming a logical fact-based counter argument. Let me reiterate my thesis: the upcoming nerfs to threaded specter and swarm grenade won't be enough to balance prismatic hunter because those nerfs don't affect uptime. The cooldown on threaded specter is about 45 seconds, and the cooldown on swarm grenade is 90 seconds. That means every 90 seconds, a hunter can get a kill with that combination of abilities with very little skill and no potential counterplay. Now, if you think that's balanced, I would love to hear your logical justification for it. And now, I'm going to try something new to prove my points. The source that I've been using for almost all the numbers I've presented in this thread is the Destiny Data Compendium. Here is the link to the Google Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/edit?gid=1186062409#gid=1186062409 Try to find any realistic combination of non-super abilities that will allow titans and warlocks to get a kill on any guardian at any resilience with a base cooldown less than 90 seconds.