Before we get started on the topic, keep in mind that this conversation is meant to bring up things you dislike which make you avoid crucible or hating it. PvE nerfs are a different topic and not allowed here. Speak about your personal issues, not the sandbox flaws. As the OP I start to tell all people here that I'm a bad loser when it comes to performance, unfair point wins and better players than me. The reason why I end up in rage (even if I enjoy pvp) is, because in D1 it was a standard for me, to be the best player of my matches and almost winning all the time in regular crucible. This wasn't always like that as I started playing Destiny 1 after the beta but like I said, it became the standard for me in the middle of "The dark bellow". So these days I sit in crucible, mostly always playing as efficient as possible (with sometimes 1-2 hatemails for me) and either winning because I carry with my pinnacle weapons, or losing and taking the game too serious. But why do I take it serious? The answer here is maybe, that during D1 the stats mattered alot here in the forums to give your own opinion value. If you had a bad k/d or many deaths, people used it (and sometimes still do) to insult you about not knowing how the games work and stop complaining about the game (things like "learn to play" or "git gud", still used). I'm pretty sure, if I wouldn't have cared about my opinion value on the forums so much I wouldn't be on the one side that good today in pvp as I am and on the other side I wouldn't be so aggressive the most time when someone kills me or outplay me because of class/ability/gun xy... So I can basically say that the crucible players of D1 AND the time I spend on the forums, made me a toxic, unlikeable player for my friends, when it comes to pvp games. Anyone else here having the same or a similar past?