They're in a really bad spot right now in PvP. They get destroyed by shotguns and fusion rifles and dont have enough range to compete with other primaries. Talk about master of none. Wanna get close with one? I'll just pull my Chaperone. Wanna back up from shotgun? Bygones. And don't even get me started on what Lunas Howl do to Submachine Guns at a range they should dominate in. Energy Submachine Guns should be more powerful and kill at a rate that can rival shotguns and fusion Rifles, because otherwise, why the #&@! am I taking a Submachine over them? It's a complete joke. Bungie, I like what you did with Cold Heart and Prometheus Lens. You made them stronger so they could compete with Shotguns, fusion rifles, and snipers but also made their ammo count reflect this. Do that for energy Submachine Guns! I would be so down for Energy Submachine guns being point and delete weapons, but having only 2-3 clips. Otherwise, I legitimately feel that Submachine Guns should be removed from the game. Imagine all the cool weapons and Exotics we could have in their place right now.