[quote]Why would you put division on there? It has been dead since like 2 months after release, if it even lasted that long[/quote] It was dead within a week of release, but unlike Bungie; they have fixed all the issues and made the game much more enjoyable. Patch 1.4 blows Destiny out of the water. As for the numbers on The Division, the social spaces are always full, unlike when you land in the Tower in Destiny to find maybe 1 or 2 people just sitting down, wondering wtf to do.