Some ppl have an issue with either not getting LDR or a Longbow. I've got several friends who can get an average drop rate one and NONE for the other. I'm in the same boat for LDR & Shadow Price. I've ranked up in vanguard roughly 40 times now & I've received 4 Badgers, 1 swarm, roughly 8 comedians while everything else that has dropped for my vanguard has been armor. I rank up both vanguard & crucible about the same amount. I've had way better luck with my crucible drops for some reason unknown. If I don't get those two weapons it's no big deal & I won't be crying, I just like collecting. On a related note: I have an idea that could kill a couple birds with one stone. What if bungie put the LDR, Shadow, Swarm, Comedian and Badger in the loot table for Nighfall rewards!! I know everyone is pretty underwhelmed with NF rewards.