"Nerf Shoulder Charge, it shouldn't be able to do a 420 noscope and hit me!!1!!" I believe that Shoulder Charge uses the same hit detection coding that bladedancer uses, because if you recall when bladedancer couldn't hit jack shite, shoulder charge was also a bit iffy. Now that bladedancer's hit detection has been improved, shoulder charge has also been drastically improved. "Well just take it away from shoulder charge!!!" Now I'm no coding expert, but I assume "taking it out" of something without touching the other would prove mighty difficult, more so given Bungies track record with "fixing" stuff... If this is the case, I believe this is why bungie has been silent about the whole matter. If there is no easy solution, it's probably best to not propose anything to the public, as to not create false hope/outcries of rage. My two cents, take it or leave it.