Jelly guys? Got these guns back to back both with Longview SRL10, Grenadier and Hidden hand. Only the middle tree is different. I dont think I can ever complain about my luck in this game anymore. LDR on Huntard and Longbow on Warlock for proof. Edit: Longbow seems to be much slower tban LDR with ADS, movement and equip speed but it feels like it has so much more aim assist. Longbow can only pick up 3 bullets from crates and has a max of 13 bullets as opposed to LDR which can pick up 4 bullets and hold 16 total. This was tested with Sniper ammo boots. My thoughts are that LDR is a run and gun sniper and that Longbow is for people who like to sit back and pick people off. Ive since gotten 2 more Longbows and 1 more LDR. The 2nd LDR is a really good PvE roll with Triple Tap and Casket mag.