I have to say Hung Jury(Dead Orbit weapon) is the best all around good in pvp and pve. Messed around with Threads Upon Stars(Bond Brothers/Valus drop) its ok but mine has little too much recoil but the exploding ammo is fun. I love Tlaloc but only when I have the super charged seems underwhelming without it. Thats why when pvping I will start out with Hung Jury then switch to Tlaloc once my super is full.