Belle, I won't really apologize since I wasn't really playing destiny then, and moreover- I don't really hang out with the community so much these days. And as I've learned from my fiancé, apologizing without a reason is meaningless. That being said: I empathize with the plight of gaming as a community. Regardless of what everyone says this all boils down to just basic. Human. Decency. And we're all animals. It's just to what degree. I am glad this has been a learning experience for you and the dames. Should you have any beer or bacon to spare, and you can find us, you can hire WizCorp! (Or you know, send us friend requests or whatever.) To everyone else- It is your prerogative to have your clan be what you want. You want it for 18-inch long wieners, have at it. If you want it to be for gay/straight/black/white/green/Christian/Islamic/German/Chinese/hentai pride, go for it. But while this is the internet, the days of wild-west style freedom (at least in the U.S.) is coming to a bit of a close. I can't say I'm sad to see it go, but you did this to yourselves. Now if we (mind if I use that term loosely?) don't clean up the act a little, you all might find that one day, before you know it, not the grammar police, the actual police might come a'knockin on your door. It's already happening! An old marine told me once: "your rights end where mine begins. Sometimes that's how it goes, other times it's not. But if you treat everyone like that, you'll never need to run from the MP's" - SGT "chick" puller, USMC, RET. Signed, Josh "Wizardmanguy" K. ...definitely not ~TheGreatNike (edited)