I can't even play pvp bcause of the lag and the random matchmaking that determines the host. I moved to Singapore a few years back and I still play WoT and BL2 just fine but Destiny crucible is just lag on top of lag with a side of lag. But yeah, until I got the thorn bounty I didn't want a thing to do with crucible. I got it during IB and really wanted it so I tried as long as I could stand it but I ended up dropping the bounty and moving on. I keep waiting for them to fix ANY of the problems with the game that plague pve and I know they know about them too. They just refuse to do anything but try and stroke off crying pvp loudmouth bros. This time to the direct detriment of pve and it's really enough of this shit.