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2/4/2015 10:14:48 PM
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But atheism isn't being out of the cave either...
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  • Edited by Doctor Cox: 2/4/2015 11:18:28 PM
    Are truly enlightened Buddhists considered out of the cave? [spoiler]I'm genuinely curious.[/spoiler]

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  • Depends on your interpretation of the allegory, whether you think anyone can really be enlightened, etc. People interpret the allegory of the cave as meaning that it's possible to be locked into a false ideology and that you can find truth by learning a better one, people interpret the allegory as meaning we are locked into our experience of reality and at death we will finally leave the cave, and others still interpret the allegory as meaning there is ALWAYS the possibility that your percieved truth is an illusion; the latter view is pretty sad because it's essentially the belief that people can never reach enlightenment. The allegory of cave has stood the test of time because it supports so many interpretations.

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  • The way I see it, reaching enlightenment [i]is[/i] leaving the cave. And I figure if anyone has a chance at it, it'd be a Buddhist monk, or similar.

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  • You can't prove your perspective is "outside the cave", so you shouldn't be confident in it :)

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  • My perspective? Probably not. But then again, I'm not enlightened. However, I do see your point.

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  • I don't think he understands the Allegory of the Cave. [spoiler]Then again, I barely get it.[/spoiler]

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  • Yes it really is.

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  • Nope. It's just another perspective within the cave.

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  • Ok, maybe it isn't 100% outside but it's at least looking up at the sky

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  • No. You don't get the allegory of the cave.

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