It takes my team under an 1hr and a half...

Good for you, I got the whole thing a crota done in 1 hour. The rewards in normal mode a much better. I'd rather get 3 of every normal mode weapon than a nechrocasm, word of crota or fang of ir yut.

You obviously do not have them... That's is all.

I have all of them and they are garbage. Even Necrochasm sucks major cock. Still only need black hammer. So im done with hard mode. No reason for me to play. Word of crota sucks. Maybe it might be good on void nightfalls. But that's about it. The Fang is pretty decent I sometime main that but normally main a mida or my Another NITC with firefly. I love that gun. But in summation, all the hard mode raid guns suck compared to VoG weapons other than the Fang. The Fang is the only gun worth having in hard mode.

Nope I don't, but I have Fatebringer, defiant abyss, Icebreaker, black hammer and hunger of crota. Proberly one of the best set ups for PVE in the game.

You are incorrect the best PVE SET UP is Word of CROTA black hammer and Jellyhorn which I run ;) and do not say the fate bringer is better than the word of Crota I will list you the active perks I am using... 1. Sure shot IS-( snapshot sight,excellent handling, superb target acquisition) 2. Zen moment (causing damage with this weapon increases stability) 3.Explosive rounds-(volatile payload explodes on impact, dealing a portion of the weapons damage in an area) 4.Phantom Gift-(Rapidly landing three precision hits returns one round to magazine) NOT TO MENTION there is 12 rounds per mag. SOOOO... You have 4 chances to land 3 precise shots. That means you have a potential of shooting 16 rounds before reloading that aligned with void damage and give disruptor the fate bringer has become nothing but an old trophy to display on the vault.