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1/31/2015 5:30:05 AM
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Abyss Defiant. Thoughts?

Been using this a bit. Just unlocked the slower fire rate/more damage perk and don't think I like it. Almost seems too slow and it still takes two clips to kill a major. What are everyone else's thoughts on this gun, if you've got it?

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  • It was good before the patch, it's pretty mediocre now. I hate focused fire perks on all weapons, it bugs me.

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  • Edited by Sergeant: 4/19/2015 5:35:06 AM
    Don't use auto rifles except for patrol.

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  • The only thing is use it for is Deathsinger checkpoint.

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  • Stinks on ice

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  • Edited by Number279: 4/18/2015 5:57:40 AM
    I use it for the Deathsinger checkpoint. It's good for Wizards.

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  • Sucks poo since the great AR nerf (RIP)

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  • It's really good as far as auto rifles go, i might even say the best legendary, due to the fact it is 331, elemental, and has good perks. The problem is auto rifles don't go very far.

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    • It's super stable for an auto rifle imo

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    • Na its shit. Use increased hip fire and use it like a SMG then it's decent

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    • When will people realize that auto rifles are NOT for killing majors?

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      • Best weapon to fight wizards it has the perk to disorient them and it does extra damage on hive majors

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      • Not fully upgraded and bitching it takes a while to kill shit...hmmm.

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        • It's pretty good for an auto rifle but since the nerf it's just not worth it. It took me a whole mag of pretty much all headshots to kill a normal knight 2 lvls below me

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        • Wizard killer.

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        • No auto rifle is currently worth using.

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        • Good against hive, better off using vanquisher in everything else.

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        • Simple fix is use hands cannons, pulse rifles or scout rifles. Auto rifles are outclassed by all the other primaries and i doubt they will fix it for they are to busy "fixing" the purple ball.

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        • Edited by Ghostface74: 2/2/2015 10:34:51 PM
          If you don't like Suros, then you probably won't like this. It has low impact (not as low as some of the new DLC weapons though) so maybe people were expecting it to be a bullet hose? I don't know. Personally, I'm not a fan of the high RoF/low impact AR's. With Focus Fire, this gun is more akin to Suros, although Suros fires even slower. Plus it's Solar damage, has Hive Disruptor, and Lich Bane. If you put all that together with Perfect Balance, I think it's one of the better Legendary AR's available right now. Edit: If you do like bullet hoses, then just equip the hip fire perk instead of the Focus Fire perk.

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          • If you play pvp, don't use focus fire. It has one of the worst, if not the worst ttk of auto rifles.

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          • Worth it for lamp run

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          • Use it for deathsinger or any strike with hefty amount of wizards.

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          • Focus fire needs to give it more damage. Focus fire tends to be more of a hindrance than a boon currently. Also, abyss defiant needs to have a 40 count mag. It punishes you with such a small mag making focus fire the more popular choice so you're not reloading every 5 seconds. I have all crotas primaries maxed and honestly, did damage comparisons, the pulse rifle is better and the fang is great. Abyss is the weakest out of the 4 not including nechro.

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            • Definitely needs a damage boost (BUFF THE ARs!).

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            • A primary legendary with lightweight

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            • I never use it. I liked VOC better but don't use autos much. I stick to scout rifles and hand cannons. That said it's nice during a solar burn nightfall.

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            • I am confused. Did anyone that replies actually get and max this weapon? First the focus fore is broken it doesnt have the proper rate of fire but does have the low impact (i e it fires to slow in ff mode) So focus fire is usless I am very disapointed with the damage this gun does.

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