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1/9/2015 3:19:10 AM
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The fact that our "justice" system can force someone to do something to their body that they are vehemently against is absolutely sickening. Maybe her judgment is misplaced, maybe it isn't, but that's for her and her family to work out, [i]not[/i] the government.
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I agree so much. Its sad when you hear things like this. If they are terminal, let them live their lives. They have alot to see and do.
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Couldn't agree more. People seemed to jump onto the "oh it's their body" when it comes to something like transgenderism, but won't stick up for this. Sad to see double standards....
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Sadly many people don't stand up for trans people.
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I stand for their right to do with their body as they please. I may not morally agree with it, but I'll sure as hell fight for their right to do what they want.
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[quote]Couldn't agree more. People seemed to jump onto the "oh it's their body" when it comes to something like transgenderism, but won't stick up for this. Sad to see double standards....[/quote] Comparing transgenderism to cancer. That's just daft.
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The double standard of "it's their body let them do what they want". Not saying transgenderism is a terminal illness
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Not necessarily. Gender Identity Disorder is very heavily linked to extreme depression and causes many trans people who are unable to get "treatment" to end up committing suicide. It may be a mental thing rather than a physical one, but in extreme cases treatment via hormones and surgery can be very much life or death. Certainly not the to extent of cancer, but it's not a daft comparison.
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Well I agree with you on Gender Identity Disorder but that and transgenderism are not always the same. I understand that G.I.D. is a very complicated mental and physical issue.
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It's up to her parents to let her be a child and accept their decisions. Like I said in my post there is a reason why they don't let 17 year olds vote or make major decisions.
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Edited by Princess Anomaly: 1/9/2015 3:35:18 AMIf you read the full story, her mother fully supports her decision to refuse treatment.
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Then her mother is an idiot. Neither her not her daughter are thinking clearly. That disease isn't a death sentence. Modern medicine could buy her decades of time. Now if she had something that only had < 40% chance of I would understand considering letting the disease run its course, but mathematically she has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than dying of cancer if she does treatment. It's 100% otherwise.
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So if she has such a high chance of survival, why force her to undergo treatment?
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That is [i][b]WITH[/b][/i] treatment. Without the cancer metastasizes to the body leading to eventual death
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It doesn't matter if treatment has 100% chance of stopping the cancer; it's her body and her choice. Maybe it's a really stupid decision, maybe she's a total -blam!-ing idiot for it, but it's still her decision and it should be respected. Not to mention even if chemo stops her cancer it could still lead to other medical issues that could make her life miserable, not to mention the constant fear of the cancer coming back.
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They both need psychological evaluations. The 17 year old either isn't functioning psychologically or doesn't understand he magnitude of her choice. Neither does her mom. I've seen people die of cancer. I watched my grandpa die of metastatic lung cancer. It wasn't pretty. It was slow, and It was gruesome. No one fully understands that and goes through that willingly and of sound mind. Humans are biologically programmed to fight to stay alive. It's why we have flight or fight responses, immune systems, adrenaline etc., and when a human is in the prime of life and no longer wants to live there is something mentally wrong that is preventing it. My grandpa was in his 80's, but that once he felt the pain of cancer im sure he would have given anything to have that disease taken away. When someone who is 17 knows that they have only a 15% chance of death with treatment and a 100% chance without and chooses death anyways, then that means there's is obviously something mentally or psychologically wrong.
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So suffer from maybe 3 possible side effects linked to her age range and treatment option (none of which are serious and all can be helped with medicine) or die. What would any sane adult say?
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Edited by Princess Anomaly: 1/9/2015 4:08:53 AMOnce again, whether it's a [i]good [/i]decision or not is very much debatable... but irrelevant. Her body, her life, her choice. Period.
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She's under child welfare. Her choices are limited.
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Some adults don't take chemo as well. Don't be dense.
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She could have had other treatments but since she failed to continue on a path her only chance now is with chemo. Doctors wont recommend a procedure the patient can't handle.
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Didn't say she couldn't handle it. I'm not arguing that. What I'm arguing is the fact that someone's free will has been violated.
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She's on child welfare. When the state is paying for you, you don't always get the choice of life or (basically) suicide.
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Oh yippee. My tax payer dollars are paying for the treatment of someone who doesn't even want it. America....
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Your "tax payers dollars" also feed crack and heroine addicts, gang bangers, and criminals. Glad to see your priorities are in line.
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Lol. Difference between a criminal and a cancer patient? One actually affects lives outside of their own. Take a guess which one that is.
