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The Christian religion? Or the Christian faith? I ask because I think you have a misconception of what Christianity is. Now don't get me wrong. I can understand why you would think that way. What with Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, Lutherans, etc, etc. So many different versions of Christianity. How do I know which one is the right one? I don't have to. I read the Bible for myself. And accepted Christ as my savior. And as such I have faith in Jesus. I say faith because I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Which means that I believe in God. Which means that I believe what the Bible says. Which version of the Bible you ask? Well that's easy. All of them. I sat down with a computer program that had every version you can think of. And the ability to compare chapter and verse. That way, if I had any doubts as to what was being said, I could just compare the different translations and ensure I understood. I only told you that as to give insight into my belief system. I do not wish to convert you or say that you are wrong for not believing. Every person alive must make their own choice. But back to your OP. You cannot get into heaven through good works/deeds. You can only get into heaven by acceptance of Christ as your savior and believing that He is in fact the son of God. Now as an athiest, you don't have to worry about that. But let me address your second point. And that is accepting Christ and then committing sin. You might have a belief that a Christian can accept Christ, then go out and murder someone and die and still go to heaven. Because hey, they accepted Christ, right? Wrong. More than once, it is written that Christ said to those that accepted Him, "now go and sin no more". But we all do. Because we are imperfect. The key here is living a life that is pleasing to Christ and asking for the forgiveness of your sin. If you're living a life that is pleasing to Christ, then you shouldn't be killing, -blam!-, stealing, or doing anything else that would land you in prison. It becomes about being self aware and understanding what is right and what is wrong. And striving to do right in every circumstance. Again, you do not get into heaven by doing good works, yet you are still expected to do them. Why? Because when you accept Christ, you become a disciple of Christ. In essence you become a member of the body of Christ. And Christ is all about love and forgiveness. Not about hate, anger, rage, being a victim, etc. I hope that I have cleared it up a little for you. My last bit of advice to you as an athiest is this. If you want to know more about any particular religion or faith, read the books aligned with those religions. That way, you will speak from a position of authority on the subject instead of being ill informed.
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  • Just because someone believes in god doesn't mean they believe the bible is fact. Only ignorant people take the bible word for word.

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  • How enlightened of you.

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  • I feel bad who ever read that nonsense.

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  • How can you follow the teachings of a book so horrendous? There is some gruesome things in there...

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  • Edited by LordZoltan: 12/31/2014 9:19:20 AM
    Yes there are. However, I would not use the word horrendous to describe the bible. The new testament is just that. New. And as such you won't find all those things. Ultimately, the bible is a message about God's promise to his children (that's us) and the fulfillment of that promise through His son, Jesus Christ.

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  • So is it safe to assume the old testament no longer matters because the new testament is an updated version of God's message?

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  • It's a continuation, not an update.

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  • So one should still follow the old testament when it was based on a time long passed?

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  • Like Jesus said, I'm not here to change one word of scripture. I think the problem for you is this: aside from the ten commandments you believe there is some message that is abhorrent. I'm guessing, I don't know for sure. There is war, violence, sex, and lots of other wholesale slaughter in the old testament. But what is the message? I know what I think it is. But I'm not you. I can't tell you what to think. And truthfully, there may be nothing there for you. In order for you to understand the Bible, you have to want to read it for yourself. No different than any other book. I mean, if you didn't want to read Lord of the rings, but we're forced to, would you really be able to tell anyone what it was about?

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  • If its "new" that means god changed his mind. Which means at one point he was wrong and switched his decision. Therefore he is not all knowing which means god isnt even a god.

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  • Lmao. Your ignorance is breathtaking. If you had bothered to read the Bible you would know that what you just wrote is utter nonsense. The words old and new are only used to describe a differentiation between the time frames of when the testaments were written. The new testament is a continuation and fulfillment of God's promise. But hey, don't worry about it. Just go on believing whatever you want to believe. It's cool.

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  • I went to Catholic school my whole life. So you need to read the bible again. I have hundreds of times unfortunately. I begat not shat cuz I'm not phat.

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  • I'm sorry to hear that. My Dad went to catholic school as did my cousin. I had 2 aunts that were Daughters of Saint Paul. I was raised catholic and was an altar boy. IN MY OPINION, catholicism turns people off to God. It makes it a chore and a bore. There is no excitement or love. Just repeating the same words a thousand times over. Joyless. I feel your pain. So I guess what I want to know is, have you ever read the entire Bible for yourself without someone telling you to?

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  • We read it for western civilization class in college. I wanted to in that case.

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  • It should always be your choice. Not shoved down your throat.

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  • Wow True Christian Rare to find one nowadays

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  • TL;DR Retard detected

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  • Your intellectual prowess is too much for me

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  • [quote]TL;DR Retard detected[/quote]

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  • [quote][quote]TL;DR Retard detected[/quote][/quote]

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  • All I'm hearing is [quote]wololo wololo[/quote], but it isn't working.

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  • Then the message wasn't for you.

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  • Wow, that was a mature way of dealing with my pun intended comment. I respect that.

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